[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [WSIS-CT] Civil Society Draft Prioritie s Document

[karen banks]

hi chris

the reason i feel it should be there is that is is really the ONLY concrete 
activity mentioned in the gov action plan re infosec - and it is one which 
is being advocated aggresively throughout the world, which governments are 
supporting.. the rest is frankly, a huge mish mash of yet more principles 
and grandiose schemes..

at which point would be oppose such an action?

karen

At 07:16 PM 7/12/2003 +0200, zielinskic at who.int wrote:
>Karen,
>
>I think that taking issue with just this one (out of a number) of misguided
>conventions by the CoE and other bodies would be a mistake. It would be best
>to point out the risks of such legislation in general, rather than aim at
>specific items. That's why I would leave the words "Council of Europe" out
>of the paper altogether.
>
>Chris
>
>Chris Zielinski
>STP, CSI/EGB/WHO
>Avenue Appia, CH-1211
>Geneva, Switzerland
>Tel: 004122-7914316 or mobile (UK) 0044797-10-45354
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: karen banks [mailto:karenb at gn.apc.org]
>Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2003 16:51
>To: czielinski at supanet.com; mciver at albany.edu; ct at wsis-cs.org;
>plenary at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [WSIS-CT] Civil Society Draft Priorities
>Document
>
>
>hi chris
>
>how would you feel about the following paragraph (slightly reworded more in
>the context of WSIS)
>
>
>[We oppose calls by some governments to support the Council of Europe's
>Cybercrime Convention or models based on the convention. Civil society
>organisations have been working for a number of years to educate and inform
>the convention's development to little avail and are now opposing its
>ratification because of its overly broad mandate, its insensitivity to
>local issues and its disregard for civil liberties.]
>
>?
>
>i really do think we should the raise issue of the convention being
>supported as a model within the context of WSIS.
>
>karen
>
>At 05:30 PM 7/11/2003 +0200, czielinski at supanet.com wrote:
> >Sally,
> >
> >I'm a little concerned about the Council of Europe being mentioned - for
> >some reason I haven't seen in these lists any discussion of their recent
> >"Declaration on freedom of communication on the Internet (Strasbourg,
> >28.05.2003)"
> >http://www.coe.int/T/e/Communication_and_Research/Press/News/2003/20030528_
>d
> >eclaration.asp#TopOfPage which occasioned quite a bit of debate on the ISOC
> >ISDF list, mainly around the topic of a "right of reply", which some found
> >onerous to ISPs and to individual journalists and writers on the Internet.
> >Since the Council of Europe is not an institution of the European
>Community,
> >can we not just drop the name wherever it appears in our paper? It adds
> >little in any case.
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >Chris Zielinski
> >Consultant, EIP/WHO
> >Avenue Appia, CH-1211
> >Geneva, Switzerland
> >Tel (Mobile): 0044797-10-45354
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sally Burch - ALAI" <sburch at alainet.org>
> >To: <plenary at wsis-cs.org>; <ct at wsis-cs.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:05 PM
> >Subject: [WSIS-CT] Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil Society Draft Priorities
> >Document
> >
> >
> > > Friends,
> > >
> > > The draft civil society priorities document that Bill has just sent to
> > > these lists has been compiled with wide input from the different
> > > caucuses that have been working over the past weeks, and will be
> > > presented in Paris at the Intersessional Meeting.
> > >
> > > We need to include endorsements of as many organizations as
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> > >
> > > If there are any major issues on which you propose to modify
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> > > significantly alter the length of the document.  A final version of the
> > > document will circulate at the weekend.
> > >
> > > Regards to all
> > >
> > > Sally Burch
> > >
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