another suggestion: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil Society Press Release: lastest version

Wed Oct 1 11:48:40 BST 2003

Jim,

Je pense que nous avons besoin d'une bonne terminologie à ce sujet. D'une 
lecture à lautre, on ne s'entend pas sur ces notions. La traduction de 
l'OQLF est contestée dans la mesure où elle prêche par sa simplicité.
Je proposais "free and open software" justement pour prendre en 
considération l'évolution du code et son accessibilité.
Le mot free voulant dire libre et gratuit, passe sous silence l'aspect 
accessibilité du code. Mais mes collègues ne l'entendaient pas ainsi. Ils 
doivent avoir leurs arguments et ils sont plus experts que moi dans ce 
sujet probablement.

Mais, cela vaudra bien un travail multilingue de terminologue pour une 
session n'est-ce pas? Est-ce déjà fait?

Amitiés

Adel

At 09:33 2003-09-26 -0400, you wrote:
>Objet : « free software »
>
>Adel,
>
>Si l'on propose un texte équivalent dans les autres langues du SMSI, il
>faut faire attention à ce terme qui peut prêter à confusion.
>
>L'OQLF propose comme traduction : « logiciel libre » et s'explique ainsi
>:
>
>« Logiciel livré avec son code source de manière qu'il puisse être
>copié, modifié et redistribué, évoluant ainsi de façon continue vers une
>version plus perfectionnée, dans un contexte de développement coopératif
>et communautaire. ».
>
>Ainsi, « libre » ne veut pas dire « gratuit » et n'entraîne pas
>nécessairement la notion d'accès absolument gratuit.  Cela comporte
>aussi une notion de responsabilité dans la mesure où l'utilisateur
>participe à l'amélioration et à l'adaptation du logiciel en question
>selon un certain sens de la déontologie.  Par conséquent, on doit aussi
>faire intervenir le concept du droit d'auteur qui est toujours protégé
>nonobstant le caractère « libre » du logiciel.
>
>L'autre côté de la médaille est le système des cracks.  Il faut éviter
>tout glissement de sens à ce chapitre et éviter l'illégalité de ce
>système.
>
>Amitiés,
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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>Subject: another suggestion: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Civil Society Press
>Release: lastest version
>
>
>Hello,
>
>I suggest also to add the word "Open" to free software.
>So, it will be "Open and free software"
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:58:13 -0500
>  "Valeria Betancourt" <valeriab at apc.org> wrote:
> > Text of press release
> > 27 September 2003
> >
> > WSIS process at PrepCom III
> >
> > Civil society has come here to share with the governments
> > our own
> > vision for an Information Society. We want an information
> > society
> > based on human rights. This provides a unique chance for
> > the
> > extension of all the values of Civil Society around the
> > globe.
> >
> > Over the past two weeks, Civil Society has proven that it
> > is a
> > vibrant force in the preparation of the World Summit on
> > the
> > Information Society. Civil Society has engaged in
> > dialogue with
> > government and business, and has expressed visionary
> > ideas and a
> > strong position in the negotiations.
> >
> > According to Beatriz Busaniche, a civil society bureau
> > member:  "A
> > few days ago I met an indigenous person from Ecuador, who
> > is here in
> > Geneva at a  UN. working group on Indigenous Peoples,
> > fighting here
> > for rights for self-determination of his people. He told
> > me that his
> > community is not here asking for their rights, nor to
> > seek
> > affirmation. They are already living them. They are here
> > for the
> > international community to recognise the fact."
> >
> > In a similar way, civil society has already been building
> > the
> > information society, defending our rights to achieve
> > social,
> > educational, political, and economic benefits.
> > Communication rights
> > are part of human rights. Human rights must be the
> > framework for the
> > Knowledge Society. Without this, the WSIS vision of an
> > information
> > society is meaningless. Even if the outcomes of the WSIS
> > does not
> > reflect, at the end of the process, our principles,
> > visions and
> > perspectives, we will continue being key actors in the
> > definition of
> > the nature and direction of the Information Society, one
> > whose focus
> > would be people's rights.
> >
> > For instance, free software has not been highlighted as
> > we would like
> > in this process, though each day more communities are
> > adopting it
> > with all the philosophy it entails.  While the spirit of
> > the
> > documents is market focused, civil society and some
> > governments,
> > especially from the south, will continue supporting the
> > rights of
> > citizenship and promoting the concept of cooperation
> > instead of
> > competition.
> >
> > As delegates from Civil Society we believe that every stakeholder
> > should have an equal voice, and a right to the benefits
> > of the
> > Information Society, whether in education, work, leisure,
> > and
> > communications. Hence we are disappointed by the
> > continuing
> > resistance of some governments to include specific text
> > that ensures
> > support for community based media initiatives - which
> > will facilitate
> > the inclusion of hitherto marginalized communities from
> > the
> > Information Society. To date, there has been an
> > overemphasis on
> > computers and the Internet, to the exclusion of analogue
> > and
> > traditional media.
> >
> > In this process, for first time, Civil Society has been directly
> > involved in the negotiations.  A special effort has been
> > made by
> > Civil Society to communicate its philosophies and methods
> > to
> > governments and the business sector. Even though the
> > process has been
> > fraught and inconsistent, with civil society included and
> > excluded at
> > the whim of governments, our experience has been one of
> > closer
> > engagement than has been the case at other United Nations
> >
> > conferences.  We hope that this is an experience that can
> > be built on
> > to ensure much closer involvement of civil society in the
> > design and
> > development of the Information Society.
> >
> > We now have a stronger position, because as the days have progressed
> > meaningful communication has emerged. But much remains to
> > be done.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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