[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [governance] Internet governance
:roles of plenary and governance lists
Izumi Aizu
izumi at anr.org
Mon Jan 26 15:23:31 GMT 2004
At 13:17 04/01/26 +0100, William Drake wrote:
>
>Izumi, Vittorio, et al, beyond just saying we adhere to certain baseline CS
>principles, wouldn't it be possible for us to agree on something like a
>short benchmarks (I wouldn't say non-negotiables) document of general
>principles on both process and substance? They've expressed willingness to
>make room in the program for someone to outline a shared position, and I
>think it'd be a waste to let that opportunity slip away because some of us
>variously disagree on specific details....
Sure - trying to come up with that short benchmarks is fine,
unless it requires too much time to agree with among us;-).
izumi
>
>Bill
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: plenary-admin at wsis-cs.org
>> [mailto:plenary-admin at wsis-cs.org]On Behalf Of Chun Eung Hwi
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:38 AM
>> To: plenary at wsis-cs.org
>> Cc: bjaffre at csdptt.org
>> Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [governance] Internet
>> governance :roles of plenary and governance lists
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> So far as I know, it is definitely ITU workshop.
>> Refer to http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/forum/intgov04/index.html
>>
>> There, you can find out the following phrase.
>>
>> "The workshop's goal is to initiate a process to prepare ITU's position
>>
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> vis-a-vis the UN Secretary-General's Working Group on Internet Governance
>> to be established as a result of the World Summit on the Information
>> Society Declaration of Principles and Action Plan agreed on 12 December
>> 2004."
>>
>> And regarding attendee,
>>
>> "Attendance is by invitation only to ITU Member States and Sector
>> Members."
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Fullsack Jean-Louis wrote:
>>
>> > Bonjour ?tous
>> >
>> > Another problem with this meeting is its ambivalence :
>> > - is it an "ITU internal meeeting" , or
>> > - is it a "WSIS informal meeting".
>> > This ambivalence is based on the dual role of Utsumi : he is
>> both the ITU SG
>> > and the Head of WSIS organisation/structure.
>> > Iin the first case the meeting is submitted to ITU rules, whereas in the
>> > second it is compulsorily open to all WSIS "stakeholders", whatever its
>> > nature may be (informal, restricted, specialized, ...).
>> > It would be helpful to listen to the opinion of the CS
>> Secretariat ... if
>> > there is still one !
>> > But it should also be the role of C&T group "co-chairs" Sally
>> and Bill to
>> > lead the way at least until it is clarified which type of
>> meeting Utsumi is
>> > preparing, unless a "chair of the CS Plenary" could be agreed
>> upon by the
>> > largest possible CS organisations involved in the WSIS process.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Jean-Louis Fullsack
>> > CSDPTT
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Vittorio Bertola" <vb at bertola.eu.org>
>> > To: <plenary at wsis-cs.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 7:36 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [governance] Internet
>> governance :roles
>> > of plenary and governance lists
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 23:11:36 +0900, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
>> >
>> > >With respect, I think you are being naive, and civil society is
>> > >likely being disadvantaged.
>> >
>> > I agree with your considerations, but I also think we have to agree on a
>> > realistic plan.
>> >
>> > On one hand, you can't credibly go to an ITU internal meeting and try to
>> > revert their internal working rules; if the only way we have to
>> participate
>> > in this event at this stage is to be invited as individuals, well, let's
>> > take it. And by the way, I'm not even sure whether all civil
>> society people
>> > will be participating thanks to an invitation as individual
>> expert, rather
>> > than, for example, as accredited person from some governmental
>> delegation,
>> > as happened during the summit. Also, you can't force people who
>> were invited
>> > as individuals to go there and say something different from
>> their individual
>> >
>> > thought.
>> >
>> > But on the other hand, we do have to coordinate so that our message is
>> > effective, that the positions on which there is general
>> agreement among us
>> > are exposed loudly and repeated again and again, and that it is
>> made clear
>> > that those positions have the support of the civil society
>> individuals and
>> > organizations which participate in WSIS. This is the only way not to
>> > disperse our strength.
>> >
>> > I think that some of these agreeable positions might be easy to
>> find: for
>> > example, I think we should stress that the UN working group on Internet
>> > Governance, as part of the WSIS process, should be equally
>> composed by civil
>> > society, private sector and government representatives; that Internet
>> > Governance needs the full involvement of civil society organizations and
>> > individual Internet users, as recognized by the Declaration of
>> Principles;
>> > that ITU itself, if willing to organize future events on this
>> matter, should
>> > ensure better and more open ways for participation by civil society, and
>> > that, more generally, ITU should offer a viable way for NGOs to
>> participate
>> > in its activities; and that the Internet Governance caucus, as
>> a subgroup of
>> > the WSIS civil society plenary, is the right place to coordinate civil
>> > society participation in the process.
>> >
>> > So what we should propose to all those who were invited as
>> "individual civil
>> > society experts" is to go there, say what they want to say, and
>> then add the
>> > above message.
>> > --
>> > vb. [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a]
>> bertola.eu.org]<------
>> > http://bertola.eu.org/ <- Vecchio sito, nuovo tobl?...
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