[WSIS CS-Plenary] Virtual Participation -Establishment of working group?

Fullsack Jean-Louis jlfullsack at wanadoo.fr
Wed Mar 17 12:29:16 GMT 2004


Many thanks to Beatriz and Victorio for understanding and supporting
"Internet beotians",  nevertheless willing to continue to work and
contribute to an ever better, broader and more inclusive expression of CS in
the WSIS process.
Jean-Louis Fullsack
CSDPTT  France

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beatriz Busaniche" <beatriz at maxmedia.com.ar>
To: <plenary at wsis-cs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Virtual Participation -Establishment of
working group?


> El mié, 17-03-2004 a las 01:20, Robert Guerra escribió:
>
> > to quote my original message...
> >
> >
> > "I do recognize that those amongst us use a variety of different OS
> > platforms, and as to not enter into a religious debate as to which one
> > is best, ideal , more appropriate or more consistent with a certain
> > ideology or another my intention is to help bring people together in a
> > constructive way to move from discussion to concrete actions and perhaps
> > even deliverables in the weeks and months ahead."
> >
> > building on that let's engage in a constructive, productive discussion
> > for all users. diversity is good
>
> That's perfect Robert, diversity is wonderful, let's respect diversity.
> first point i guess we are agree!
>
> let me explain you my point, so we could go on with our construction of
> a participatory process.
>
> let's forget about Gnu linux!
> I want to support Jean Louis words. To be part of this test, and then to
> this working group, and then to this virtual plenary we need:
> pentioum 3...  ram:256Mb.  And to download 38 MB of a software without
> access to the licence until you already download it. (of course,
> propietary software).
>
> do you really consider that this facilitates a participatory wide and
> democratic process?
>
> let's go back to GNU Linux!
> I am using the last version of an OS... I have a Pentium 4 and 512 MB of
> RAM.  and adsl to be connected, Even thow i cannot access because i
> didn't get the code to compile this software to use it in my own OS.
>
> It's not a matter of religions, it's a practical issue.
>
> I don not want to start a discussion here about rights... did you hear
> that word? we used that word a hundred times during WSIS process.  so, i
> will not argue about the rights that all of we loose when we use
> propietary software.
> Ok, we are agree, it's not a matter of religion... it's a matter of
> rights, but we don't want to discusss about this on this list.. where we
> discuss about a lot of different rights but never about our rights as
> software users.. seems that a discussion about free software has no
> place here until we have a problem like this, when we finally discover
> that it is a religios issue!! great!
>
> but ok, forget about rights...  let's talk about diversity...
>
> to respect diversity we need to have a software that runs on a diversity
> of existing OS. For that, the software must be java or they have to give
> us the source. it's a matter of respect of diversity and a technical
> issue.  that's far away for a dogmatic issue.
>
>
> Hope you will understand that i am just trying to be constructive. I
> also support Enrique's proposal. why are we looking for something that
> is so complex when we could use accesible and simple tools like irc that
> runs wherever???
>
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> >
> > robert
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