[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [Africa-CS-WSIS]WSIS, Civil Society and Multi-Stakeholderism

Sun Apr 3 16:04:20 BST 2005

Ngenda,
Thanks to elaborate... my english is poor and i cannot
understang the meaning of you message.
Please take not thet there is also 2 civile societies
one in the North with means, expertise and capacities
and one in the South, especially in Africa where with
nothing.
Those who born in Africa and who are winning in the
North and perhaps some of them in the South have no
legitimacy to speak on behalf the South...
We are african and proud of that and if we have no
place to express our hopeless situation we will find
relevant solutions to be heard.
Deux mots pour Ngenda pour lui demander d'expliciter
son message.
Il y a assurément 2 société civile l'une au nors avec
des moyens l'autres au Sud avec le désespoir et si
personne ne veut entendre le message, il se fera
entendre autrement.

--- ngenda at bluewin.ch wrote:

> Why are you so busy defining yourselves. We are
> Africans. Private, public
> or whatever. We want to make a difference. That is
> what counts. The public
> sector can do their diplomacy and the private sector
> can finance. Where is
> the problem? WE ARE AFRICANS.
> 
> Ngenda
> 
> 
> >-- Original Message --
> >From: djilali benamrane <dbenamrane at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Africa-CS-WSIS]WSIS, Civil Society
> and Multi-Stakeholderism
> >To: africa at wsis-cs.org, plenary at wsis-cs.org
> >Cc: wsis-finance at yahoogroupes.fr
> >Reply-To: africa at wsis-cs.org
> >Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 01:03:46 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >
> >In my point of view, as long as the CS has not find
> >the way to ensure tis financial independancy, the
> CS
> >will be dependant on ether Governments, or
> >international inter-governmental organisations
> (IGO)
> >including the UN system, or private sector
> operators.
> >As long as we are dependant, we do have to identify
> 
> >our alliers... there is a French proverbe saying
> >better to deal with God better than with its
> >servants... it means that we have to try not to be
> >eaten by the private sector if we are not already
> >eaten. My speech will be different when the CS will
> >meet her financial independancy and it is suitable,
> >feasible and possible.
> >De mon point de vue, la soci?t? civile a un lourd
> >handicap celui d'?tre totalement d?pendante
> >financi?rement parlant.
> >Tant que durera cette d?pendance autant d?pendre de
> >dieu plut?t que de ses saints... dieu ici se sont
> les
> >Gouvernements et le diable anime les op?rateurs du
> >secteur priv?... prenons nos distances et ?vitons
> >d'?tre avaler par ce secteur priv? devastateur.
> >Mon discours sera autre le jour o? nous trouvons la
> >solution de notre autonomie financi?re et cela est
> >possible, faisable et souhaitable.
> >Amiti?s 
> >Djilali
> >
> >  
> >--- Ad? <odutan1 at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> >> Civil Society and Multi-Stakeholderism:
> >> Discussion emerging about opportunities and
> strange
> >> bedfellows
> >> 
> >> Ralf Bendrath of the Heinrich-B?ll-Foundation has
> >> written this essay 
> >> about the internal debates within civil society
> >> whether it should or 
> >> shouldn't work more closely with the private
> sector
> >> and governments in 
> >> the WSIS process. While some civil society
> >> representatives advocate a 
> >> "multi-stakeholder approach" in which they find
> ways
> >> of working closely 
> >> with these sectors, others argue that civil
> society
> >> must remain 
> >> independent so it may fight against policies that
> >> they
> >> believe are not 
> >> in the public interest.
> >> 
> >> http://www.worldsummit2003.de/en/web/735.htm
> >> 
> >> Ad? BADA
> >> National ACSIS COORDINATOR 
> >> FOCAL POINTin BENIN
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 	
> >> 
> >> 	
> >> 		
> >>
>
>__________________________________________________________________
> >> D?couvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo
> d'espace
> >> de stockage pour vos mails ! 
> >> Cr?ez votre Yahoo! Mail sur
> >> http://fr.mail.yahoo.com/
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Africa mailing list
> >> Africa at wsis-cs.org
> >>
>
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/africa
> >> 
> >
> >
> >Djilali Benamrane : dbenamrane at yahoo.com
> >Tel/fax : (227) 75 35 09 BP 11207 - Niamey - Niger
> >T?l/Fax : (331) 01 45 39 77 02 Paris - France
> >Page web sur le SMSI (mecanismes de financement) :
> en cours de construction
> >
> >Page web sur l'Afrique et la globalisation :
> http://www.multimania.com/djilalibenamrane/
> >Groupe de discussion:
> http://www.egroups.com/list/afriqueglobalization
> >
> >
> >		
> >__________________________________ 
> >Do you Yahoo!? 
> >Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage
> less. 
> >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
> >_______________________________________________
> >Africa mailing list
> >Africa at wsis-cs.org
>
>http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/africa
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Africa mailing list
> Africa at wsis-cs.org
>
http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/africa
> 

Djilali Benamrane : dbenamrane at yahoo.com
Tel/fax : (227) 75 35 09 BP 11207 - Niamey - Niger
Tél/Fax : (331) 01 45 39 77 02 Paris - France
Page web sur le SMSI (mecanismes de financement) : en cours de construction 
Page web sur l'Afrique et la globalisation : http://www.multimania.com/djilalibenamrane/
Groupe de discussion: http://www.egroups.com/list/afriqueglobalization

__________________________________ 
Do you Yahoo!? 
Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. 
http://personals.yahoo.com