[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [Governance] Request for support -- del etion of words from the CS document

Adam Peake ajp at glocom.ac.jp
Mon Jul 14 18:08:51 BST 2003


At 11:34 AM -0400 7/14/03, Sasha Costanza-Chock wrote:
>If the problem is that our statement here could be interpreted as support
>for a shift in internet governance power from ICANN to ITU, IMHO that stems
>from a 'soft' wording of what should basically be a demand for inclusion in
>ICT governance mechanisms, however they develop, current or in the future.
>As the Civil Society Plenary, although not representative, we should be
>taking stands on behalf of the non-state, non-corporate, public interest,
>not on behalf of "all 'stakeholders'".
>
>What if we remove the potentially dangerous 're-examined with the full
>participation of all stakeholders;' make clear that we are calling for
>inclusion regardless the forum - couldn't we all agree on a position along
>the lines of:
>
>"To these ends, we demand full inclusion of civil society in the management
>of Internet names and numbers and any other related mechanisms, in light of
>serving the public interest and in compatibility with human rights
>standards."


I think that's essentially what Wolfgang wrote (plus his agreement to 
a friendly amendment on "human rights" as you note) in the original 
draft we saw at the end of last week.

I of course again ask that the paragraph in the current "final" 
document be deleted.

Thanks,

Adam






>This would be impossible to interpret as support for ITU unless there was
>serious reform of ITU's nature, and if it's a given that power for the
>forseeable future will remain with ICANN, it becomes a clear call for
>greater participation there.
>
>sasha costanza-chock
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Erick Iriarte Ahon
>To: plenary at wsis-cs.org; AdamPeake; governance at lists.cpsr.org;
>plenary at wsis-cs.org
>Sent: 7/14/2003 10:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [Governance] Request for support --
>deletion of words from the CS document
>
>I support this position.
>
>Erick Iriarte Ahon
>Alfa-Redi
>http://www.alfa-redi.org
>
>
>At 12:04 p.m. 14/07/2003 +0200, Wolfgang Kleinwächter wrote:
>>I support Adams position
>>
>>wolfgang
>>
>>Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> schrieb am 14.07.03 11:44:04:
>>  >
>>  > To all members of the Internet Governance Caucus (IGC) mailing list.
>>  >
>>  > I would like to ask members of this list to support my request that
>>  > the following paragraph be deleted from the Civil Society Priorities
>>  > Document:
>>  >
>>  > "To these ends, the current management of Internet names and numbers
>>  > and other related mechanisms should be re-examined with the full
>  > > participation of all stakeholders in light of serving public
>  > > interests and compatibility with human rights standards."
>  > >
>  > > Any call for re-examination will be seen as civil society
>undermining
>>  > ICANN.  And if we do that we can only strengthen the position of the
>>  > ITU and some governments in trying to gain control over Internet
>>  > naming and addressing.
>>  >
>>  > The WSIS is not a debating society. We have no right to negotiate,
>we
>>  > have no right of reply.  And we know how the government discussion
>>  > will be, we have seen words twisted before, they will not read
>beyond
>>  > " re-examined".
>>  >
>>  > Please support deletion of this paragraph.
>>  >
>>  > Kind regards,
>>  >
>>  > Adam
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