[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: EU/Pan-European/North-American Caucuses

[richard t jordan]

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Hi, Jean-Louis, We in North America are not necessarily think tanks nor are we thinking in a kind of colonial mentality. When we sat together on the Friday night of the last session of Pre Com 3, and spoke for quite a while, I wish that you had expressed these views to me then and I could have perhaps done my best to explain my own considerations.

It happens that there has been only ONE NGo representative from UN Headquarters in NY who has been to all of the Prep Coms and the Paris intersessional and that's me!

I am not looking foreard to any type of NGO armada that is out to separate me from any caucus, hope you will agree!

By the way, your email came to me into my bulk mail folder, which means that my server interpreted it as spam. Think you had better check with your server so that good messages are not mixed up with unwelcome spam!

Best regards,

Richard Jordan

 
--------- Original Message ---------

DATE: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 09:32:36 
From: "Fullsack Jean-Louis" <jlfullsack at wanadoo.fr>
To: <plenary at wsis-cs.org>
Cc: 

>And If the EU/NA "caucus" were only a "submarine" for NA lobbying in the EU
>area ?
>A kind of "European subsidiary" for NA think tanks ?
>A gadget for nostalgic Europeans of "American Dream" ?
>Until I know the NA people and organisations involved (transparency isn't
>only a Declaration principle  for DCs!) I'm strictly against such a
>transatlantic combinate that we don't need for Civil Society purposes.
>What we do need is a strong European working group that meets our concerns,
>correseponds to our European vision, and tries to esptablish a better
>formalized contact with the European Institutions, especially (at least for
>me) in the ACP Framework as far as "Digital divide" issues are concerned.
>
>Jean-Louis Fullsack
>CSDPTT France
>
>we could get----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sasha Costanza-Chock" <schock at asc.upenn.edu>
>To: <plenary at wsis-cs.org>
>Cc: <alt.wsis at lists.riseup.net>
>Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 1:27 AM
>Subject: RE: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: EU/Pan-European/North-American Caucuses
>
>
>> A brief word on the discussion over EU/NA caucus:
>>
>> Not only doesn't it make much sense to combine EU/NA, it seems unclear to
>me
>> what the purpose of an NA caucus would be. The Canadian, US, and Mexican
>> governments are not operating as a bloc here.
>>
>> Frankly, the US gov is currently one of the prime obstacles to key civil
>> society positions, esp. on free/libre open source software. This is in
>part
>> because their position is basically being written by the 'committee of
>> business interlocutors.' There is therefore the (overdue) need for 'civil
>> society' in the US to get organized, generate a more progressive US
>> position, and pressure the US gov.
>>
>> Some steps have been taken in this direction: Clemencia Rodriguez of
>> OURmedia/Nuestr at sMedios, Dorothy Kidd of USF, and myself (Sasha
>> Costanza-Chock) of Free Press media reform network and the CRIS campaign,
>> are creating a first draft of a 'US civil society' statement for
>submission
>> to the CS Plenary, the CS Bureau, and the US gov. This will be widely
>> circulated for reworking and endorsement by US groups, then launched in
>> early November, probably at the National Conference on Media Reform
>> (mediareform.net/conference).
>>
>> To facilitate this process, we have created a CRIS USA mailing list open
>to
>> US CS: http://comunica.org/mailman/listinfo/crisusa_comunica.org
>>
>> We invite all US CS to help us make this happen, effectively, in a very
>> short time.
>>
>> Sasha Costanza-Chock
>>
>> schock at asc.upenn.edu
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