[WSIS CS-Plenary] Structure of WSIS Phase 2

djilali benamrane dbenamrane at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 5 13:56:40 GMT 2004


Please see french below
Dear Adam,
Thanks to your message. We can admit thet the CS
become once again marginalized in the process.
Selection and invitation of representatives are
decided under her nose.
Agenda and contents are formatted in her absence and
after they will be officialised with her symbolic
participation.
We must react quickly and those who played a key role
in the first phase (Geneva) must act in transparency.
I take note that my preoccupation for un effort for
translating systematicly english messages in an second
language cannot be taken in consideration, in the
future, the debate will be put in other areas,
normally, the Francophonie and the French and Canadian
Government must make an effort to finance the
translation in French and idem for other languages but
anyway the race will be lost by the non english
speaking who unfortunately will stay always in late.
Let's try to find solution to your 3 questions :
1. How do the working groups and the action plan
implementation issues link together?
2. How would we have to change our working structures
accordingly, in order to be most effective and still
bottom-up and inclusive?
For this point i would like to propose to set up a new
group of 3 known CS representative to be our speaker
and make proposal in any situation and if possible to
anticipate and react to future situations. The
priority will be to find how to make information
available for non english speaking.
3. Do we want this structure at all? What else would
we envisage? If we want to try to change this, we
would have to act soon and coordinated.
For this point i would like to propose regional
meetings and especially for africa subregional
meetings as a best level to make participation larger
and more effective and with appropriate cost.
 Cher Adam,
Merci pour votre message. Nousq devrions admettre que
la société civile est en train de se marginaliser dans
le processus de preparation du sommet de Genève.
La sélection et l'ivitation de ses représentants se
font à sa barbe (même si on laisse croire qu'il s'agit
d'experts et des meilleurs parmi nous !
Le calendrier et le contenu des propositions sont
formattés à notre insu et l'on nous demandera le
moment venu de les cautionner et on dira qu'il s'agit
d'une aprticipation active de la SC au process.
Nous devrions réagit rapidement et ceux qui ont joué
un rôle déterminant dans la phase de Genève devraient
agir dans la transparence.
Pour ma part je prends note que mes préoccupations
pour que chacun d'entre nous fasse l'effort de
traduire ses messages dans une seconde langue que
l'anglais ne semble pas possible. Il faut chercher
d'autres solutions à la Francophonie et aux Gts
français et canadien d'aider à concevoir des solutions
s'ils veulent que les francophones soient partie
prenante aux débats, idem pour les arabophones, les
espanophones, les luzophones etc...
Toujours est-il que les non englophones auront
toujours plusieurs logueurs de retard.
Pour répondre a vos trois questions :
1. Comment s'articule le travail des groupes de
travail et ceux qui tentent d'opérationnaiser le plan
d'action ;
2. Comment devrions nous nous réorganiser pour être
plus proactif ?
Pour ce point je propose la mise en place d'un groupe
de 3 personnes qui seraient nos porte paroles pour
peser dans les délais sur les débats et surtout pour
faciliter l'information aux non englophones.
3. Acceptons nous la structures telle quelle ou
devrions nous la modifier pour la rendre plus
efficace, plus à m^me de corrdonner les actions 
Sur ce point et concernant les modes de concertation
je plaiderai pour les réunions régionales voire sous
régionales en Afrique pour permettre des
participations plus actives, moins couteuses et plus
rentable pour la    
--- Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >have a look at this document for the ITU WSIS
> working group Wolfgang
> >mentioned:
>
><http://www.itu.int/council/wsis/Geneva_04/Tunis-RoadMap.doc>
> >
> >It looks like there will be a twofold preparatory
> process:
> >1. thematic (no regional) meetings and prepcoms for
> building concrete
> >mechanisms for actions
> >2. a parallel "Coordination Group" where the chart
> just says
> >"stakeholders", for reviewing actions.
> >
> >Does anyone know about this "Coordination Group"?
> Will it be constructed
> >like the ITU workshop, i.e. with limited
> participants (invited "key
> >actors" / "experts" or whatever)? Or how else?
> 
> 
> Would be good to know if this is just the ITU's
> proposal, or if more 
> fixed than that. The working group meeting the
> document is prepared 
> for is an internal ITU (member states and sector
> members) group.
> 
> 
> >In general, it looks like this time there will be a
> heavy focus on the
> >Action Plan and concrete implementation of the
> principles mentioned in
> >the summit declaration.
> >
> >The themes will be much broader than just the
> "Internet governance" and
> >"finance" issues  that have have gathered a lot of
> interest here and
> >everywhere... Just look at the ITU stock taking
> attempts at
>
><http://www.itu.int/council/wsis/Geneva_04/stocktaking-update.doc>.
> They
> >cover everything.
> >
> >In fact, the two working groups (in Internet
> governance and finance)
> >could be a third parallel part of the process.
> >
> >We will have to think about:
> >
> >1. How do the working groups and the action plan
> implementation issues
> >link together?
> >2. How would we have to change our working
> structures accordingly, in
> >order to be most effective and still bottom-up and
> inclusive?
> >3. Do we want this structureat all? What else would
> we envisage? If we
> >want to try to change this, we would have to act
> soon and coordinated.
> 
> 
> Problem I see with the structure is the lack of any
> regional meetings.
> 
> OK, we don't know anything about the thematic
> meetings, if they are 
> envisaged as Tunis-based, or Geneva/New York
> (Paris).  However, I 
> think we should emphasize the importance of regional
> meetings and the 
> diversity they enable.
> 
> My 5 yen!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> >Just my 5 (euro)cent. ;-)
> >
> >Ralf
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