A way forward for the CS structure - a suggestion - [WSIS CS-Plenary] (absence of) suggestion for Tunis meeting

Tue Feb 24 19:47:54 GMT 2004

Dear Civil Society Members:

I suggest that we: 

1 ) Identify the issues that we think will be important to Civil Society in Phase 2

2) Carry out a SWOT ( strenghs, weaknesses, opportunities, threats ) analysis of our current Civil Society co-ordination structure using a universally available collaboration tool.

3 ) We can then conclude as to:

                                      a) Leaving the CS structure as it is for the future save us some 
                                          time so that we can address some real issues)

                                      b) Changing the structure to a certain extent to reflect new   
                                           priorites ( increase language translation capabilites )

                                      c) Throwing the old structure out completely and bring in the 
                                           new ! ( a lot of work !) 

I would be pleased to co-ordinate this analysis with others.

Amali De Silva - Mitchell MSc.

President Vancouver Community Network, Canada
Director Freedom of Information and Privacy Association, Canada
Co-coordinator North American Caucus - WSIS CS

djilali benamrane <dbenamrane at yahoo.com> wrote:
En Français ci-aprés...
Dear All,
Wolfgong is already in the content. It's easy to
declare that we have not to reinvent the wheel... We
are only on how to proceed so we avoid difficulties
lived by many of us, especially those comming from
africa during the Geneva Summit....
Putting such a question i don't feel reinventing the
weel but asking how to identify the best wheel we need
and how to use it better for al, in the North but also
in the South, in English, but also in other languages.
All the best
Djilali
Chers vous tous,
Wolfgong est déjà au niveau du contenu et nous
recommande de nous pas perdre de notre temps à
réinventer la roue !
On peut ne pas être satisfait sur ce qui s'est fait et
poser des questions et apporter des éléments de
réponse sur de quelle roue s'agit-il, comment la
définir ensemble et l'utliliser ensemble que nous
soyons du Nord ou du sud, d'Afrique ou des pays
arabes, parlant ou non l'anglais et si nous répondant
à ces préoccupations peut-être éviterions nous d'être
méprisés à Tunis comme nous l'avons été à genève !
Bien à vous
Djilali
--- wolfgang at imv.au.dk wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I fully suppoert Seans approach.
> 
> Furthermore, while we need an evaluation and
> re-definition of our priorities und strategies for
> WSIS Phase II, we should base our plans and actions
> and what we have achieved in WSIS Phase I. There is
> always a risk to reinvent the wheel. It makes sense
> to read the CS Declaration again and again. It makes
> also sense, to single out a limited number of
> concrete (key) proposals, formulated in the CS
> declaration, and to repeat this as well again and
> again. We need both innovation and consistency.
> 
> Best
> 
> wolfgang
> 
> -- Original Nachricht--
> Von: Sean O Siochru 
> An: plenary at wsis-cs.org
> Senden: 12:19 PM
> Betreff: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] (absence of)
> suggestion for Tunis meeting
> 
> Djilali et amis
> 
> Je suis d\'accord aussi avec Meryem sur les
> questions de la reunion a Tunis, 
> la representation de la societe civile, et les
> priorite pour le moment. 
> (Sorry Djilali - just token effort)
> 
> Civil Society, and all its components (CS Plenary,
> C&T Group, Working 
> groups, Bureau) must have an open and frank
> discussion about the future, 
> and sort itself out before the first \'official\'
> meeting, which is the 
> PrepCom. The upcoming Bureau meeting and the Tunis
> meeting have no mandate 
> to take any decisions or make any statement on
> behalf of civil 
> society. But of course, individual civil society
> members who agree with 
> this can play an important role in making known, in
> Tunis, the huge effort 
> that has gone into civil society in terms of
> organising, the major role we 
> played leading up to and at Geneva, and that we are
> in the process of doing 
> so again for this round. And that we expect the
> full (hands-off) support 
> of the new Secretariat in doing that, and in
> enabling civil society to 
> again play a key role, in ways that we will inform
> themof in coming months.
> 
> Sean .
> 
> At 01:22 24/02/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> 
> >Bravo Myriem pour cette analyse, on ne peut plus
> >claire, on ne peut plus objective et on ne peut
> plus
> >constructive.
> >Le temps joue contre la société civile qui certains
> >représentant en situation dominante par la langue
> et
> >par leur expérience durant la première phase du
> SMSI
> >se confinent dans leur aveuglement.
> >Il faut que la société civile arabe, africaine et
> du
> >tiers monde puisse démarrer un processus difficile
> >pour faire valoir son point de vue et ne pas
> laisser
> >aux associations du Nord qui plus est angloxaxone
> >s\'exprimer à leur place.
> >Les tunisiens aussi doivent saisir l\'occasion en
> >Tunisie et hors de tunisir de saisir cette
> opportunité
> >extraordinaire pour faire progresser leur situation
> et
> >là tout est ouvert y compris l\'option pour bouder
> le
> >sommet ou susciter un contre sommet, encore
> >faudrait-il rester partie prenante dans
> l\'évolution
> >des choses.
> >Merci de continuer à nous tenir informés sur
> >l\'évolution des choses et des écrits même en russe
> ou
> >en chinois.
> >Amitiés
> >Djilali
> >Sorry Myriem, no comment in English as long as
> English
> >spoken members of this discussion group will
> express
> >only in English. It is time here also to clarify
> the
> >situation.
> >
> >--- Meryem Marzouki 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Le lundi, 23 fév 2004, à 07:23 Europe/Paris,
> Veni
> > > Markovski a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Meryem,
> > > > we all know there are problems in Tunisia,.
> but
> > > what do you suggest we
> > > > can do?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Veni, and all,
> > >
> > > First of all, some people who are already far
> more
> > > informed than others asked me to go on posting
> information article
> on
> > > Tunisia like those I\'ve posted. They find them
> useful.
> >
> > > Secondly, I suggest doing simply nothing as for
> now.
> > > This Tunis meeting is a closed meeting (a non
> closed meeting is a 
> > meeting where anyone can
> > > participate, at the very least those who have
> participated for two
> > > years in the WSIS process, and not a meeting by 
> invitation only.
> > > So, those who are invited and willing to go
> obviously will go, this
> is
> > > their perfect right. But I consider that they
> don\'t represent the
> > > others. Consequently, they don\'t have anything
> to say in the WSIS
> CS
> > > name (let me add that it seems that they don\'t
> have anything to
> say,
> > > anyway). They will just speak for themselves.
> They will listen to
> what
> > > will be said, and, hopefully, some of them will 
> report to us.
> > > And be sure I would have said exactly the same
> thing if the meeting
> was
> > > not convened in Tunis.
> > > The fact that WSIS 2nd phase is in Tunis
> shouldn\'t hide the fact
> that
> > > WSIS CS has to sort out its own business. If the
> first PrepCom is
> > > scheduled for this spring, we don\'t have a lot
> of time remaining to
> do
> > > that. This should be, in my opinion, our first
> and most important
> task.
> > > Regarding the Tunisia issue per se, let\'s have
> the relevant people
> take
> > > care of this as for now and let\'s see what
> happen.
> > >
> > > [Français]
> > > D\'abord, des personnes bien mieux informées que
> > > d\'autres m\'ont demandé
> > > de continuer à poster de tels articles
> d\'information
> > > sur la Tunisie.
> > > Ils les trouvent utiles.
> > > Ensuite, je suggère de ne rien faire pour
> l\'instant.
> > > Cette réunion de
> > > Tunis est une réunion close (une réunion ouverte
> est
> > > une réunion où
> > > chacun peut participer, au moins ceux qui ont
> > > participé au processus du
> > > SMSI depuis deux ans maintenant, et non une
> réunion
> > > réservée à ceux qui
> > > sont invités.
> > > Par suite, ceux qui ont été invités et qui
> > > souhaitent se rendre à cette
> > > réunion iront, évidemment, et c\'est leur droit
> le
> > > plus absolu. Mais je
> > > considère qu\'ils ne représentent qu\'eux-mêmes.
> En
> 
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