[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: update on CS emergency plenary

[Barmaki Amir Hossein]

Dear All

We maange to have two speakers today on HR, one the first lady(Ms.Belhassan) 
who was denied yesterday, with a bit modified text, then an african lady who 
reads the same text !!!!!! in the goverment plenary. some tuniisans were 
very annoyed,but its was a funny situation.

my concrete suggestion is that we could not go on like this and let them 
jeoperdise our democratic debates.We should split and form another plenary, 
the tunisina GNGOs could form their own plenary.

obviously from now on we have two fractions of CS and its ok, this is 
difference and its accepatble.

but the like minded NGOs should gather each other and decide for thier own, 
it will be also a good poltical action and have a lot of hidden messages.

In prepcom II we should have a claer definition of who are in what side, on 
side of freedom of expression or not.


and for who are not here, you really miss many funny events and sometimes 
shocking.

regards

Amir


>From: Robert Guerra <rguerra at cpsr.org>
>Reply-To: plenary at wsis-cs.org
>To: plenary at wsis-cs.org
>Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: update on CS emergency plenary
>Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:39:35 -0400
>
>Ralf:
>
>I agree with your statements 100%
>
>Just like governments, i would encourage the creation of a "like minded" 
>civil society group - which is inclusive as possible, respects diversity 
>and who's members agree to certain generally agreed upon rules of 
>procedure.
>
>Would neutral space of the Goethe institue in Tunisia help for subsequent 
>meetings?
>
>regards
>
>Robert
>
>At 4:10 PM +0200 6/25/04, Ralf Bendrath wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>and thanks a lot, Andy, for updating everybody out there on this.
>>
>>>  In the end, it appeared to be decided that there would be one speaker, 
>>>a
>>>  woman from Africa,  who would leave out the language singling out 
>>>Tunisia.
>>There was no consensus on it. I got no answer to my question why Tunisia
>>is not considered an African country, and the Human Rights Caucus
>>definitely did not agree on censoring the language on Tunisia.
>>
>>>  But the question still remains open; when civil society representatives
>>>  spoke during the late morning plenary, just before lunch, the human 
>>>rights
>>>  caucus did not present their remarks, because it was clear that no
>>>  democratic consensus had been reached on the issue.
>>
>>>  They will continue the
>>>  debate later today, and hopefully strike some kind of agreement so they 
>>>may
>>>  present first thing tomorrow morning during the plenary session.
>>We have to seriously think about how to deal with these agents
>>provocateurs. Everything was done according to procedures we had during
>>WSIS phase one, and the statement was actually not bashing Tunisia, but
>>encouraging the true implementation of human rights in all countries
>>including Tunisia. (We hope to be able to send out the statement later
>>today and also get an English translation.)
>>The Tunisians messed up the whole thing, and the chair was obviously not
>>capable of moderating in a sufficient manner.
>>
>>This is really serious.
>>If you look at the outcome, the Tunisian close-to-government "NGOs" got
>>what they wanted: There was no public civil society statement on human
>>rights, and the woman from the Tunisian Human Rights League could not
>>speak.
>>Keeping in mind that the PrepCom venue looks more like a Las Vegas
>>spaceship that landed here in the middle of nowhere than it looks like
>>Tunisia, it seems that Tunisia just does not exist in this summit
>>process.
>>A number of like minded civil society groups are currently discussing to
>>form their own structures to make sure that they can speak about all
>>issues that are important to them. If we (or rather the Tunisian NGOs
>>close to the government) go on like this, we will have a de facto
>>censorship. Many of us are not sure anymore if it makes sense to deal
>>with everybody, even if it is clear that there are fundamental
>>differences on important issues.
>>
>>Ralf
>>
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