[WSIS CS-Plenary] Fwd: RE: [icann-board] Fwd: [GKD-DOTCOM] Cyber-Security and E-commerce

[Veni Markovski]

Dear Nabil,
please, feel free to forward this to the GKD-DOTCOM mailing list. I am 
writing to Marta from Makedonia, as well. Hope this brings some more light 
into the discussion.

I hope that we can keep the communication off the mailing list, if people 
are not interested.

I'd be happy to help more, if I can.

best,
Veni


Further to the message below, I'd say from me: the listed countries are 
well known for credit fraud (yes, including my own country...).

I think a wise solution form the registrar would have been to assign one 
credit card, used by the local ISPs, issued by a well-known bank, to the 
ISP or its CEO, which can be used for authorization of payments.
Or, alternatively, the local ISPs could send a check, drawn to an US bank, 
for $ xxx, which then could serve as credit at the registrar.

And, of course, local ISPs can switch providers and registrars, but as 
there's no guarantee they may face the same problem on a later stage, I'd 
go for the better solution.

v.

>Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:41:31 -0400
>From: "Vinton G. Cerf" <vinton.g.cerf at mci.com>
>To: "'Veni Markovski'" <veni at veni.com>, icann-board at icann.org,
>         halloran at icann.org
>
>
>I called the customer service line and asked to speak to a supervisor. I 
>reached Mr. Chris Brown who asserted that
>Cheap-DomainRegistration.com (otherwise known as Wild West Domains) had 
>encountered high levels of fraud from "customers" in
>Bulgaria, Romania, Malaysia, Indonesia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Vietnam and 
>Ghana. They have unilaterally chosen not to do business with
>customers in these countries. They reject email coming from email servers 
>whose IP addresses appear to be allocated to ISPs in those
>countries. Mr. Brown told me that if I wanted to pursue the matter further 
>I needed to talk to the president of Go-Daddy, from which
>I conclude that Cheap-DomainRegistration must be connected in some 
>business fashion with Go-Daddy. He claims that both are
>accredited ICANN registrars. Wild West Domains is indeed registered with 
>ICANN but it appears that Wild West Domains might be a
>private label operation based on Go-Daddy.
>
>There is nothing illegal about a company choosing not to do business with 
>customers in certain locations. I don't think there is an
>obligation to do business in every country.
>
>I think the Macedonian ISP needs to take a few specific steps:
>
>1. contact the Cheap-Domain Registration.com organization using email that 
>is NOT traceable to Macedonia and request transfer of any
>domain names they have registered to a registrar who is willing to accept 
>the registrations and a price that the Macedonian ISP is
>willing to pay.
>
>2. Ascertain which registrars are willing to do business with a Macedonian 
>company, before executing any transfers.
>
>Dan, have you other or different advice that you would offer?
>
>Vint
>
>
>Vinton Cerf, SVP Technology Strategy, MCI
>22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115
>Ashburn, VA 20147
>+1 703 886 1690, +1 703 886 0047 fax
>vinton.g.cerf at mci.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Vint,
> > this seems very unusual for a registrar. Bulgarian companies have no
> > problems registering domains via other registrars like 2Cows, Godaddy,
> > Register.com, etc.
> >
> > I don't know who Cheap-DomainRegistration.com are, but
> > there's no US policy
> > not to accept payments from the countries listed below.
> >
> > Best,
> > Veni
> >
> >
> > >From: owner-gkd at phoenix.edc.org [mailto:owner-gkd at phoenix.edc.org] On
> > >Behalf Of Marta A.Tomovska
> > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:42 AM
> > >To: gkd at phoenix.edc.org
> > >Subject: Re: [GKD-DOTCOM] Cyber-Security and E-commerce
> > >
> > >
> > >Dear GKD Members,
> > >
> > >This discussion on cyber-security and e-commerce is a very
> > crucial and
> > >immediate one for us in Macedonia.
> > >
> > >I work with Unet, the first ISP in Macedonia, which
> > currently serves more
> > >than 15,000 customers with Internet connectivity services,
> > more than 1,000
> > >customers with web design, development and maintenance
> > services, and more
> > >than 1,000 customers for Domain registration services.
> > >