[WSIS CS-Plenary] Update stocktaking / MAJ stocktaking

Fri Sep 3 13:59:23 BST 2004

El vie, 03-09-2004 a las 19:21, Elizabeth Carll, PhD escribió:
> Dear Francis,
> 
> I can understand how those not fluent in English may feel as on occasion
> there are posts that are in French and other languages which some of us may
> not be able to read and can imagine how frustrating it would be if these
> were the majority not the minority of posts.  Hopefully, CS will be in a
> position in the future to have translations automatically for all posts.
> 
NOTE: This message was left intentionally only in Spanish.
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Que bueno que puedas entenderlo, Elizabeth. La sociedad civil (si es que
tal cosa existe) no ha podido impedir que la organizacion de la WSIS
considere apropiadamente otros lenguajes además del inglés. Cuando mi
compatriota argentina Beatriz Busaniche defendio en Ginebra su derecho a
exponer en español en la primera fase de la WSIS como integrante de la
Sociedad Civil (aclaro que el español no es un idioma precisamente
minoritario en el mundo, aunque no deberiamos discriminar tampoco por
mayorias y minorias), la organización del WSIS no habia previsto ninguna
forma de traducción. Todo era mono-lingüe, en ingles. Una vergüenza para
un foro que dice querer interpretar y reglamentar las nuevas formas de
comunicación humanas, y ni siquiera esta preparado para manejar la
diversidad de las formas tradicionales de comunicación como el habla.

Seria formidable tener traducciones para todos los post, y que cada uno
escriba en su lengua materna y todos entiendan en la suya propia, como
tu dices. Mientras eso no exista, no hay por qué aceptar el monocorde
"international" english language como la opción única.

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> Best regards,
> 
> Elizabeth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plenary-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin at wsis-cs.org]On
> Behalf Of Dr. Francis MUGUET
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 12:14 PM
> To: plenary at wsis-cs.org
> Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Update stocktaking / MAJ stocktaking
> 
> 
> Dear Elizabeth
> 
> >Dear Francis,
> >
> >Thank you for posting the information.  In reviewing the English version
> >attachments, I noticed the last attachment was in French.  Would it be
> >possible to post the last stocktaking attachment in English?
> >
> The last attachment is the translation by Jean-Louis of an attached
> document in English.
> So you are not loosing any info.
> All other are English-only documents, so you are measuring the gap
> concerning
> linguistic diversity.
> French-only speaking ( and also Spanish-only speaking ) people are
> feeling a little left out
> of this process being done only in English.
> Translation has a cost that ITU could and should afford it.
> Now, concerning Civil Society, it is easy to criticize,
> not all the Civil Society can afford translation, but should make
> it best efforts.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Francis
> 
> >
> >Thank you for your work on this.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Dr. Elizabeth Carll
> >Focal Point to WSIS
> >International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies;
> >Chair, Media/ICT Working Group,
> >NGO Committee on Mental Health, New York;
> >Tel: 1-631-754-2424
> >Fax: 1-631-754-5032
> >ecarll at optonline.net
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: plenary-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:plenary-admin at wsis-cs.org]On
> >Behalf Of Dr. Francis MUGUET
> >Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:28 AM
> >To: plenary at wsis-cs.org
> >Subject: [WSIS CS-Plenary] Update stocktaking / MAJ stocktaking
> >
> >
> >
> >Dear Friends,
> >
> >Thanks Jean-Louis and Bruno ( both of them ) for their last posts.
> >I noticed those documents concerning this important sotcktaking process
> >which is going on now, only very recently.
> >It seems that the English version of the Stocktaking document has not
> >been submiited
> >to the Plenary list, therefore many people are going to wonder what's
> >going on.
> >Therefore,  you will find attached
> >the related documents in English in the proper open ( albeit proprietary  )
> >pdf format.
> >The ITU stocktaking grid  or table is the last updated version.
> >
> >Friendly yours
> >
> >Francis
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Chers Amis,
> >
> >Merci Jean-Louis et les deux Bruno pour leurs messages.
> >En plus des documents en Anglais en format pdf,
> >vous trouverez aussi en format pdf , le document que Jean-Louis a eu le
> >courage
> >de traduire, concernant ce processus de "stocktaking"  difficile à traduire
> >http://www.webster-dictionary.org/definition/stocktaking
> >disons de "mise en inventaire" ou de "participation à l'inventaire"
> >
> >Cependant, je tiens à signaler que même si le document traduit par
> >Jean-Louis est le plus important conceptuellement,
> >il y a d'autres documents disponibles uniquement en Anglais,
> >surtout une table très longue en Anglais, dont je fournis la mise à jour
> >en attaché.
> >
> >Amicalement
> >
> >Francis
> >
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