[WSIS CS-Plenary] UPDATE Re: The Public-Root, criminal behaviour reported to Turkish President

[Milton Mueller]

>>> andrew.calabrese at colorado.edu 09/23/05 5:11 PM >>>
>Thank you Joe. I'll follow Elizabeth's advice and delete your 
>postings. I didn't mean to project arrogance, but you clearly 
>received it that way, and I'm sorry for that.

Andrew:
I think your initial message was quite appropriate. Baptista and his
spam helped to destroy some of the open, unmoderated ICANN-related lists
several years ago. Let's hope the same fate doesn't befall WSIS-Plenary

Many people from that period filter his weird and false messages, which
seem designed to distract others or provide an outlet for paranoid
fantasies. His latest fantasy is that a group of people running an
alternate root are somehow connected to me, Michael Froomkin and Karl
Auerbach. I can say categorically that I have no connection with
Baptista or his "Public-Root" crew, and have never "taken money" from
them, and doubt seriously whether they have any money to to take. I also
doubt seriously whether Froomkin or Auerbach have anything to do with
him either, as they are familiar with his antics from ICANN lists.  


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On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Andrew Calabrese wrote:

> Dear Joe Baptista,
>
> Your postings seem to be very peripherally related to the WSIS.
Furthermore,
> they are generating little or no response on this list. Given how
heavy
the
> traffic flow on this list is right now, I kindly request that you
> discontinue the postings. While somewhat interesting, they are
happening
> much too frequently.

No that is a completely unacceptable request.  The failure of the WSIS
to
do anything about this is a clear indication to me that the WSIS has
no
idea how to deal with this.  And therefore I suggest that the
leadership
found here is defunct - at best.

The fact that a government - i.e. Turkey is now the laughting stock of
the
networks for having failed to do their due dillegence is a reflection
on
all governments including the WSIS and ICANN.

The fact that leaders in the WSIS community - i.e. Michael Froomkin,
Milton Muller and Karl Auerbach were more then happy to support the
public-root when things were going well, and were more then happy to
accept money from us, but were completely incapable of dealing with
the
corruption is another clear indication there is no leadership at the
WSIS.

The Public-Root is the only model which provides and lends itself to
internet governance.  It was so good that leading governments
completely
failed to due their due dillegence on the matter and signed on - with
eyes
firmly closed.

I hear alot here about internet governance, but I think it's best I
point
out that non of you have any idea what it is you are trying to govern.
Your response to this message is a clear indication I'm right.  Failure
to
act is in itself a clear indication you all need an education on the
subject.  Which is why I'm posting here.

Now Professor - kindly return to putting your head in the sand where
it
belongs with all the others.  Your reponse to my concerns lacks
credibility and the arrogance of it is completely unacceptable.

Kindest regards
Joe Baptista
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