[WSIS CS-Plenary] Review of CS Bureau - long overdue and much needed

malik khan motamar at gmail.com
Tue Oct 17 21:27:03 BST 2006


This your opinion.You are using all out of context.You have accomplished
nothing  no zig zag answers please Keep  it to your self people are not
fools.
 malik


On 10/16/06, Dr. Francis MUGUET <muguet at mdpi.org> wrote:
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> Dear Malik
>
> > Dear Robert
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > I admire your courage. I agree with you the election and appointee
> > were hand picked.
> >
> I guess you have misinformed.
> The CSB has not been hand picked by govermements or international
> organizations as
> it was  the case wtih
> the  Task Force on Financing Mechanims, the WGIG,
> the MAG of the Internet Forum, or the advisory board of the Global
> Alliance,
>
> From where did you get all this disinformation ?
>
> >  These decision were  made by some one else.
> >
> this is not how things did occur. It was an ad hoc
> self organization process.
>
> > They were not fair .That is the reason why things don't work.
> >
> Things are not working as bad as you think, but they could be better.
> I was expecting the worse after the ECOSOC session last July in
> Geneva, but today I was pleasantly surprised/
> At UNESCO, things are evolving into the right direction.
> CS representatives have the possibilty to intervene, and their suggestion
> are noted, in the same way as governments and private sector.
> The representative from Egypt tried to bring some procedural issues
> to slow down the multistakeholder approach, but he was outnumbered
> and finally gave up.
> All stakeholders present in the room were called to approve
> the selection of UNESCO as the lead agency for the C3 action line.
> Plathe  mentionnend that the recognition of one NGO : APC as
> a co-facilator of the C2 action line was an exemple of the
> multi-stakeholder
> approach.
>
> I am really too tired to make a report tonight.
>
> > We stay quiet .
> >
> speak for yourself...
>
> > The pattern is same every where the foot ball is in the two side of
> > the same . It is a good drama.
> >
> We are not watching TV, here at UNESCO, believe me !!!
>
> > There is no activity people will make money.
> >
> I do not understand what you meant ?
>
> My best advice if you do not want to stay quiet is to start
> to form a CSB at your own national level or regional level,
> to defend the procedural rights of your own civil society,
> both at an international level and national level.
> Your national CSB being as an antenna ( working both
> ways ) of the international CSB in Geneva.
> Think a little about it, but
> in countries where  CS is facing difficulties,
> national CSBs would be quite helpfull.
>
> In my view, formation of national and regional CSBs are necessary steps
> in the  review of the international CSB,
> as a natural evolution because
> we are reaching the most exciting phase of the WSIS : implementation.
> The formation of national and regional CSB would increase
> 1/ the efficiency of the implementation,
> 2/ the inclusive participation of people that have not the
> capablitity to travel to Geneva, Paris, New York,
> Kuala lumpur, Beijing or Athens.
>
> As we say in French:
> La critique est facile, l'art is difficile
> Criticism is easy, but art is difficult.
>
> Do we really want to bridge the digital divide ?
>
> Best regards
>
> Francis
>
> > Dr Malik Khan
> >
> > On 10/16/06, *Robert Guerra* <rguerra at lists.privaterra.org
> > <mailto:rguerra at lists.privaterra.org>> wrote:
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> >     Dear colleagues:
> >
> >     Several months ago I asked a simple question, one that for some
> >     reason
> >     has generated little discussion and comment - that being the future
> of
> >     the Civil Society Bureau (CSB) as a structure and those elected (or
> >     appointed) to serve on the body.
> >
> >
> >     Much like the governance caucus has, I think the CSB must clearly
> >     pronounce itself on how it sees its role, and how  its
> representatives
> >     are selected .
> >
> >     Personally I believe the CSB has, in all extents and purposes
> >     served its
> >     role - and is not longer providing any type of useful role.
> >     Perhaps I am
> >     wrong..but i just can't agree with a structure that sees its
> >     represented
> >     at entrenched in their positions. If the body is to represent in
> some
> >     way CS, then it needs to periodically open itself for renewal and/or
> >     elections.
> >
> >     I thus call for the members of the CSB to start an open
> >     nomination/election process. The call needs to be preceded with a
> >     clear
> >     statement on how the election will be run - specifically how
> >     transparent
> >     it will be, and what specific "seats" are available.
> >
> >     Three key issues that need to be resolved :
> >
> >     1. What to do with the  "host country liaison" seat ? Is there a
> >     need to
> >     have such a position when there is no summit host country to
> dialogue
> >     with ?
> >
> >     2. How many regional "seats" are to be allocated. Do we use the
> >     existing
> >     structure ? If not, then a consensus must be reached on the # of
> >     regions
> >     to be allocated. Possible bodies to use an example - UN, FIFA,
> ICANN,
> >     Olympics, etc..
> >
> >     3. How can the election be overseen and run in a fashion that is
> >     consistent with the core values of Civil Society @ WSIS ?
> >
> >     An election for the CSB seats is NO small task, but nonetheless -
> >     something that is long overdue and much needed. How to proceed,
> well,
> >     something that needs to be discussed..
> >
> >     regards
> >
> >     Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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