[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [Bureau] RE: Message on registration and overpasses

Tue Nov 25 07:54:02 GMT 2003

John,

> I agree with and support Nick's sentiments below.  Content groups /
caucuses
> have been created, re-created, canceled, etc all on an ad-hoc on-going
basis
> throughout the WSIS process.  YJ, you mention that these groups have been
> "more active", but I believe you must be clear and state "substantively
> actively" and I dont think that we should say that any one entity has been
> more active or better.  All mechanisms have played their role in an
extreme
> effort to collaborate.

You have a valid point here.
CS WGs and caucuses have been more fluid than families with its open-end.

> Additionally, the "substantively active" has been due to the fact that
since
> the very beginning we have established that the CSB would not involve
itself
> in substance and to this day, its only involvement in such has been the
> presence of the CT Working Group as an observer on the WSIS Civil Society
> Bureau.

Therefore, family focal points in general in the WSIS meeting process have
been recognized as messengers between the CS plenary and the CSD.

> The role of the CSB has proved to be invaluable and increasingly
> served to fill an important role since the Paris Intersessional.  Please
do
> not downplay that role due to its mandate and limits on addressing
> substance.

I see value of CS Bureau in terms of a counterpart of Governmental Bureau
in the whole WSIS context and believe this kind of interaction should
continue to enhance CS's role in the WSIS negotiation process.

It symbolizes Civil Society's equal status in interacting with governments
even though there is a long way to go for us to achieve the goal in
formulating
information society.

But as of today, Bureau in the CS context failed to bring its deliverables
to
the CS Plenary in many occassions by igoring its duty to communicate
between the CSD and the CS Plenary.

The recent failure was funding arrangement and its decision. In principle,
the Bureau was supposed to approve the list and its selection mechanism
but final decisions were made by CSD and we were told by CSD.

This kind of mistake should not be repeated in the name of CS Bureau
in the future. CS overpass allocation among the civil society participants
should be managed by civil society group itself in cooperation with CSD
but not by CSD in the name of Bureau.

Sincerely,
YJ

> Sincerely,
> John R. Gagain Jr.
> Think-Tanks Focal Point
> WSIS Civil Society Bureau
> j.gagain at funglode.org
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: bureau-admin at wsis-cs.org [mailto:bureau-admin at wsis-cs.org]En nombre
> de Nick Moraitis
> Enviado el: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:23 PM
> Para: bureau at geneva2003.org; bureau at wsis-cs.org
> CC: plenary at wsis-cs.org
> Asunto: [Bureau] RE: Message on registration and overpasses
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Not terribly fussed on this, but my personal input would be that I
> generally feel like it should be kept simple - with the families
> responsible alone. I don't know what the basis of Caucuses and Working
> Groups is or how new ones are created and recognized by others as
> existing. I do get the impression that they are generally considered
> "content groups".  On the other hand, the definition, role and number of
> actors within the Bureau and the role of the Secretariat seems clearer,
> more logistic-oriented, and more suited to this task - as per the
> descriptions on:
> http://www.wsis-cs.org/cs-overview.html
>
> I suggest that the agreed families (perhaps excluding the Regional
> families) should "enable any civil society entity to find a 'home'" and
> if not the Secretariat should keep some extra passes over for those on a
> first come-first-serve basis who "chose not to associate with some or
> all of the above entities".
>
> Louise, one question - if the youth caucus were to submit a list of
> names for 30 people for the Opening Session to assist with security and
> advance planning, when would be the last date to submit such a list, and
> what possibility would there be to change names? (considering for
> example, any unforseen but probably likely complications with travel and
> visas for a few participants?).
>
> Cheers
> Nick
> Youth Family/Caucus facilitator
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bureau-request at geneva2003.org
> [mailto:bureau-request at geneva2003.org] On Behalf Of YJ Park
> Sent: November 24, 2003 1:01 AM
> To: bureau at geneva2003.org; bureau at wsis-cs.org
> Cc: plenary at wsis-cs.org
> Subject: Re: Message on registration and overpasses
>
>
> Thank Sean for pointing this out.
>
> As it has been observed in the WSIS civil society process,
> more active partcipation and coordination has been done
> through working groups and caucuses in cooperation with
> CS content and theme group on the volunteer basis.
>
> In principle, CS family structure in the civil society proposed
> by CSD is supposed to play a role of organizer or coordinator
> but most substantial coordination has been made by volunteers
> from civil society plenary so far.
>
> As Sean addressed, it seems more natural for CS working
> groups or caucuses to handle this issue in conjunction with family.
> Therefore, the following proposal sounds more reasonable than
> only family inputs.
>
> Working groups and Caucuses:  27 of these each with 8 = 216
> (assumption that many family members are part of WGs)
> Bureau Families 21 families each with 4 =   84
> Content & Themes group 5
> Total pre allocated:  305
> First comes first served = 295
>
> One more clarification about the number of passes. Technically,
> as requested if 22 family provides 30 members, it is 660. How many
> passes are we talking about here? I thought 295.
>
> YJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sean O Siochru
> To: bureau at geneva2003.org ; bureau at wsis-cs.org
> Cc: plenary at wsis-cs.org
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Message on registration and overpasses
>
>
> Louise
>
> Renata's suggestions of November 6th, developed by a group of us,
> proposed that passes be made available as follows:
>
> Distribution:
>
> <Working groups and Caucuses:  27 of these each with 8 = 216 (assumption
> that many family members are part of WGs)
> <Bureau Families 21 families each with 4 =   84
> <Content & Themes group 5
>
> <Total pre allocated:  305
> <First comes first served = 295.
>
> Why are families being asked to come with 30 names each?  Why not the
> working groups and caucuses?
>
> Sean
>
>
> At 17:08 21/11/2003 +0100, Louise Lassonde wrote:
>
>
> Dear Bureau members,
>
> Registration
>
> We would like to inform you of the state of registration as of today.
> So far, 3000 Civil Society participants have registered and we expect
> 25% more to come in the next weeks;
> 1000 governement, we expect at least 2X more to come in the next weeks.
>
> Overpasses
>
> 600 overpasses have been allocated to Civil Society and we have
> requested 150 more for the World Electronic Media Forum.
> Renate Bloem (NGO Family) made a proposal on the 6th November on the
> allocation of overpasses.
> In addition, it seems appropriate for the opening ceremony to have a
> name list well in advance for security reasons.  May we ask each family
> to draw up a list of 30 names (in order of priority).
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Cher Membre du Bureau,
>
>
> Enregistrement
>
> Nous aimerions vous informer de létat davancement de lenregistrement
> au jour daujourdhui.
> Pour le moment,3000 participants de la société civile se sont
> enregistrés
> et nous
> prévoyons encore 25% dinscriptions supplémentaires durant les
> prochaines semaines ; 1000 représentants des gouvernements, nous
> prévoyons au moins le double pour les prochaines semaines.
>
> Laissez-passer
>
>
> 600 laissez-passer ont été alloués à la société civile et nous en avons
> demandé 150 de plus pour le World Electronic Media Forum.
> Renate a fait une proposition le 6 novembre concernant lallocation des
> laissez-passer.
> De plus, il semble approprié pour louverture de la cérémonie davoir à
> lavance une liste de noms pour des questions de sécurité.
> Pourrions-nous demander à chaque famille de dresser une liste de 30 noms
>
> (par ordre de priorité).
>
>
>
> Meilleures salutations
>
> Savita
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