[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: conditions for CS participation

Sat Feb 7 14:28:58 GMT 2004

Hi
from the far spanish speaking south, i strongly support what Jean Luis
and DJilali said. It is not only africa and the french speaking
community, the problem is also with the big spanish speaking community
from Latin America, also with the chinese community and so.

I cannot agree that civil society will continue be represented just for
those who could attend every meeting because they live in Europe or in
North America. What happens with the rest of us? 

I know a lot of people that are interested in follow this process but
it's impossible for them just because they do not speak english, which
kind of world summit are we following ???

Hola
desde el lejano e hispano parlante sur, apoyo firmemente lo que dijeron
Jean Louis y Djilali. No se trata solo de los africanos y los
francófonos, también se trata de la enorme comunidad hispano hablante y
de América latina, y lo mismo con la comunidad china y todos los dem'sa.

No puedo estar de acuerdo en que la sociedad civil siga siendo
representada solo por aquellos que pueden estar presentes en todoas lasr
euniones sencillamente porque viven en Europa y en norteamerica. Qué
pasa con el resto de nosotros.

conozco mucha gente que está interesada en seguir este proceso pero les
resulta imposible sólo porque no hablan inglés. Qué clase de Cumbre
Mundial estamos siguiendo???

Saludos en españo!
Beatriz

El sáb, 07 de 02 de 2004 a las 05:03, djilali benamrane escribió:
> en français plus bas !
> Dear Myriam, Jean Louis, Ryk and all
> I support the comment of Myriam and Jean Louis. It is
> time to take the time to decide how to process in the
> future. Those who are well known and experimented by
> the first Phase (Geneva) must propose names and
> mechanism for provisory representativity of SC. For
> the Tunis phase we do need to equilibrate the
> representativity regarding the languages (in minimum
> the UN official working languages and so the
> respective SC especially in the South will be better
> informed and involved in the preparation of the
> Summit.
> We must do something to make the representative of
> Africa more present and more efficient in the
> preparation and the tenue of the Summit in Tunis.
> What is doing the SC Bureau if it is functionning ?
> Why is it ne capable to mobilize ressources from
> Francophonie, France or Canada to unsure the
> traduction of messages ?
> Chers Myriam, Jean Louis Ryk et les autres,
> j'appuie les commentaires de Myriam et de Jean Louis,
> et il serait temps de prendre le temps de réfléchir et
> de proposer des noms et des mécanismes pour
> représenter dès cette phase la SC, même
> provisoirement. 
> Il me tient tout particulièrement à coeur que les
> langues officielles onusiennes de travail soient
> équitablement représentées dans le groupe à désigner
> ainsi les SC notamment du Sud de ces langues seront
> mieux informées et mieux impliquées.
> Que fait le Bureau de la SC s'il existe toujours ?
> pourquoi ne mobilise t-il pas des moyens au près de la
> francophonie, de la france ou du canada pour assurer
> la traduction des messages ?
> Nous devrions faire le nécessaire pour que la SC
> africaine puisse être davantage présente et active
> dans la préparation et da    
> --- Fullsack Jean-Louis <jlfullsack at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > en français plus loin
> > Dear Rik
> > If some of CS members are to attend this meeting
> > they will partcipate in any
> > way to the views exchanged. Such a high level
> > meeting cannot be but official
> > and hence a risk that some CS participants opinions
> > expressed during it are
> > considered as "official" by the organisators  ...
> > especially if they are "in
> > the good (official) direction".
> > 
> > Cher Rik
> > Si certains membres de la SC vont à cette réunion,
> > ils participeront de
> > toute manière à l'échange de vues. Une réunion à si
> > haut niveau ne peut être
> > qu'officielle, d'où un risque que les points de vue
> > de participants de la SC
> > exprimés au cours de celle-ci soient tenus comme
> > "officiels" par les
> > organisateurs  ... en particulier s'ils se situent
> > "dans la bonne direction"
> > (l'officielle).
> > 
> > Jean-Louis Fullsack
> > CSDPTT
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rik Panganiban" <rikp at bluewin.ch>
> > To: <plenary at wsis-cs.org>
> > Cc: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>;
> > <hr-wsis at iris.sgdg.org>;
> > <wsis-euc at fsfeurope.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] WSIS Briefing, Feb 9,
> > 1400, Rm XXV, Palais
> > des Nations, Geneva
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Meryem,
> > 
> > My understanding is that this is just an open
> > invitation for groups to
> > participate and share information from their own
> > caucuses and working
> > groups.  I don't think it is intended to be
> > comprehensive nor
> > "official."
> > 
> > Rik
> > 
> > On 6 févr. 04, at 14:02, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks Rik for the information. What are these
> > "Reports from WSIS NGO
> > > Caucuses and Working Groups", when caucuses have
> > neither been invited,
> > > nor even informed of this ? What is this
> > "inclusive" process, which is
> > > rather a "fait accompli" ?
> > > Who will speak on behalf of the "WSIS NGO Caucuses
> > and Working Groups"
> > > ?
> > > We should firmly protest against this situation.
> > >
> > > I hope that someone who can attend will inform us
> > of what has been
> > > said at this meeting.
> > >
> > > Meryem
> > >
> > > Le vendredi, 6 fév 2004, à 13:26 Europe/Paris, Rik
> > Panganiban a écrit :
> > >
> > >> Dear Friends,
> > >>
> > >> Apologies for the last minute notice of this
> > meeting.  We didn't
> > >> receive the confirmation from the UN of the room
> > number until quite
> > >> late.
> > >>
> > >> Please forward to anyone in Geneva who might be
> > interested.
> > >>
> > >> Rik Panganiban
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> You are cordially invited to
> > >>
> > >> An Information Briefing
> > >> on the World Summit
> > >> on the Information Society
> > >>
> > >> Monday, 9 February 2004
> > >>
> > >> 1400-1600, Palais des Nations, Rm XXV
> > >>
> > >> Speakers:
> > >> H.E. Mr. Habib Mansour, Tunisia Delegation to the
> > WSIS
> > >> H.E. Mr. Daniel Stauffacher, Swiss Delegation to
> > the WSIS
> > >> Yoshio Utsumi, WSIS Secretary-General, ITU
> > Secretary-General (invited)
> > >> Charles Geiger, Head of WSIS Executive
> > Secretariat
> > >> Alain Clerc, Civil Society Division, WSIS
> > Executive Secretariat
> > >> Bertrand de la Chapelle, Open-WSIS.net
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Reports from WSIS NGO Caucuses and Working Groups
> > >>
> > >> Question and Answer Session to immediately follow
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Note: NGOs must have their own accreditation to
> > the UN to participate.
> > >>
> > >> After the briefing, there will be a short meeting
> > of the CONGO ICT
> > >> Task Force and the Task Force on ICTs and
> > Poverty.  All interested
> > >> NGOs are invited to participate.
> > >>
> > >> Sponsored by the Conference of NGOs in
> > Consultative Relationship
> > >> with the United Nations (CONGO)
> > >> website: http://www.ngocongo.org
> > >>
> > >> For more information please contact
> > rik.panganiban at ngocongo.org
> > >> <flyer WSIS briefing 2.9.04.doc>
> > >
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