[WSIS CS-Plenary] List of NGO reps in Hammamet and question of govt. relation

[djilali benamrane]

In French below...
Dear Laurent,
It's so easy to be representative of a civile society
situated in developped and rich country... You are
Ausrian congratualtions ! i guess in such a country,
governmental concerns, civile society concerns however
its speciality are quasi the same .... so i can
understand your comments and your advice "So if you
have the chance to get into it, I'd recommend to take
it"...
Imagine that you are somebody in Africa, your
government demends on the aid of particular donnor
(International NGO, UN Agency or Austrian Government°
to pay tickets and fees do you think it easy for a
representative of local NGO to take it as you
recommanded...
I ma 1000 times against because of this will give to
dictatorial gobernments the right to impose CS in
their delegations ! 
Pour ce cher Laurent qui fait des anlyses si
pertinentes pour la CS d'un pays riche et développé,
la pauvre, il ignore la situation dans les pays du Sud
et comment voulez vous afficher la moindre crédibilité
si vous venez en plus dans des délégation officielle !
Je suis mille fois contre, ne serait-ce que parce que
cela va donner l'idée aux Gouvernements dictatoriaux
d'exiger que leur société civile soient inféodée !
Amitiés
Djilali
--- Laurent Straskraba <laurent at straskraba.net> wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I would like to contribute to this discussion since
> I see it coming to 
> assumptions and not talking about facts.
> 
> First of all, we cannot say "the" CSOs. Civil
> society have a broad range, 
> including educational, political, developmental,
> environmental, scientific, 
> etc. commitment.
> 
> Secondly, even if it's the same kind of CSO, it also
> depends on the person 
> who is within the delegation what the input,
> throughput and output will be.
> 
> Thirdly, the fact that a CSO member is part of a
> governmental organization 
> doesn't say anything about the government's support.
> Not even supplying 
> media information about their blend.
> 
> Finally, it all depends on the people involved - and
> that is why we need to 
> get away from symbolicism to real issues.
> 
> As for the Austrian delegation, in addition to
> government (administrative 
> representatives) and an e-government company
> delegate, there were people 
> from universities, a rural development organization,
> the Austrian UNESCO 
> commission, a private school, and me as an
> independent researcher and 
> consultant.
> 
> I think it's a very good idea to be part of the
> delegation since one gets a 
> much better insight into how issues are being
> discussed, what is mentioned, 
> what''s not, who/what is a pushing/laming factor for
> information society 
> development, etc.
> 
> So if you have the chance to get into it, I'd
> recommend to take it.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Laurent
> 
> ---
> Mag. Laurent Straskraba
> Information Society Researcher / Information Society
> Representative at UN 
> Youth & Student Association of Austria
> 
> post: Ontlstrasse 3, A - 4040 Linz, Austria / Europe
> mobile: +43.650.7711861 (GMT +1)
> e-mail: laurent at straskraba.net
> web: http://www.straskraba.net
> ---
> 
> 
> At 09:32 08.06.2004, you wrote:
> >Certainly getting sponsorship from the government
> is not the case at least
> >for OECD countries - the rationale as you and
> Christoph, Fullsack and
> >Chantal were pointing out, it seems at least in the
> EU level the objective
> >was to 1. promote the CSO voices across the
> discussion table, irrespective
> >of government's acceptance or formal endorsement of
> the CSO's strand 2. Give
> >the CSO of the respective country a greater
> visibility 3. and in fewer
> >cases, adhering to the CSO's strand in the formal
> governmental input. When
> >it comes to inputting the CSO perspective in the
> decision making, being part
> >of the governmental delegation/agenda makes a
> sense, isnt it? It seems
> >democratic from the government's point of view as
> well. But where the
> >opinion clashes, it is unlikely for you to make a
> partnership with the
> >government to vindicate your strand at this global
> forum.
> >On the other hand, all the fellowships are coming
> largely from governments
> >directly or indirectly - it is not very clear how
> CSOs could put forward
> >their conflicting viewpoints in this process
> without government support at
> >all.
> >Best
> >Atanu
> >TakingITGlobal
> 
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