[WSIS CS-Plenary] spam or universal access ?

djilali benamrane dbenamrane at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 11 09:50:55 GMT 2004


Thanks Amali for your understanding and your support.
Firendly
Djilali
--- Amali De Silva <amalidesilva at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 2 cents from me - I have to admit when I see the
> pleas from Africa e.g. Niger which our colleague on
> the  CS plenary list  never fails to enlighten us
> about; I wonder as to what our CS priorities for
> humanity really are especially at a conference such
> as this ? Is it spam ( a junk mail annoyance for the
> Western world ) or universal access ?
>  
> I do think the C&T team of phase 1 should
> re-mobilize and start on an action plan for phase 2
> themes that CS wants to promote asap - starting with
> a virtual on-line / real time meeting would be
> great!
>  
> Amali De Silva - Mitchell
>  
> cc: Plenary 
> 
> wolfgang at imv.au.dk wrote:
> Hi Betrand,
> 
> do yopu propose an "Intergovernmental Spam
> Convention" or a "Spam MoU"?
> 
> best
> 
> wolfgang
> 
> -- Original Nachricht--
> Von: Bertrand de LA CHAPELLE 
> An: Adam Peake 
> Senden: 08:01 PM
> Betreff: Re: [governance] comment on spam
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Could be a case where a new type of international
> instrument 
> is needed, similar to what Directives are in the
> European 
> Union :
> 
> a formal agreement on objectives, measures/methods
> to adopt 
> by the respective stakeholders, the responsibility
> to do it 
> resting on each individual (sovereign ?) entity,
> with a 
> follow-up mechanism to verify later on that the
> Directive has 
> been "transposed in the internal legal order".
> 
> It seems anyway that spam is rising to the level of 
> recognized global nuisance, and could be a very good
> test 
> case for defining new methods to address such
> issues.
> 
> 2cents, etc...
> 
> Bertrand
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:55:47 +0900
> >From: Adam Peake 
> 
> >Subject: [governance] comment on spam 
> >To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> >
> >We've discussed a little about address spam
> globally 
> (whether is can 
> >be addressed globally, or whether anyone should
> even try.) 
> I just 
> >sent a note to Dave Farber's list about spam in
> Japan. We 
> don't 
> >really have any domestic generated spam. A lot of
> spam from 
> overseas, 
> >little generated in Japan. Spam on the wired
> Internet that 
> is, we do 
> >suffer still from spam on mobiles.
> >
> >I think there's a lot of opportunity for sharing of
> best 
> practices, 
> >but action seems to be best taken locally. Global 
> coordination and 
> >cooperation, but not multilateral hard action.
> >
> >2 cents, etc.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >
> >-- 
> >
> >(Sent to Farber, no idea if he will choose to
> forward to his 
> list.)
> >
> >At 8:39 PM +0900 3/10/04, Adam Peake wrote:
> >
> >Dave,
> >
> >I almost never see Japanese spam.
> >
> >In 2002, Japan enacted two laws: quite strict, and
> quite 
> successful
> >
> >As far as I can see, the basic regulations are:
> >
> >-messages must state they are an advertisement and
> sent 
> without consent.
> >-must have a real opt-out option.
> >-randomly generated email addresses are banned
> (APeake@, 
> BPeake@, 
> >CPeake@, etc., and random numbers for mobile
> addresses.)
> >-be sent from a valid address, with a valid subject
> line.
> >-carriers/ISPs are able to bar spammers.
> >-carriers/ISPs can filter spam without consent
> (this stems 
> from a 
> >time when there was masses of mobile spam, 80% or
> more of 
> all data 
> >traffic, and carriers needs to get it off their
> networks.)
> >
> >Penalties: up to 2 years jail, fines up to 3
> billion yen 
> >(300,000,000 yen, about $2.5 million at the time.)
> >At the same time, pyramid buying laws were expanded
> to 
> address some 
> >types of spam.
> >
> >I think Scott MacQuarrie's last comment is wrong:
> we do need 
> to care 
> >about our ISP's problems, they bill us!
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >Adam Peake
> >GLOCOM Tokyo
> >
> >
> >
> >As I said often on IP, I have neither the time or
> desire to 
> use systems
> >like this and ignore all such requests djf
> >
> >Delivered-To: dfarber+ at ux13.sp.cs.cmu.edu
> >Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:45:06 -0800
> >From: Dennis Paull 
> >Subject: Re: [IP] SPAM Countermeasures Risks Digest
> 23.25
> >X-Sender: dpaull at pop.svpal.org
> >To: dave at farber.net
> >Cc: Scott MacQuarrie 
> >
> >Hi Dave,
> >
> >For IP if you choose.
> >
> >I read through the Digiportal web site and I do not
> see how 
> it could be
> >used with lists such as IP? If Scott thinks that
> email list 
> owners are
> >going to respond to special messages from every new
> 
> subscriber, he must
> >be crazy.
> >
> >There may be other such situations that are less
> apparent 
> where the
> >scheme being used is inappropriate. Besides that,
> it looks 
> great.
> >
> >Dennis Paull
> >Half Moon Bay, CA
> >
>
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> 
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