[WSIS CS-Plenary] About WGIG mission: what is it for?

Fri Jan 7 18:36:42 GMT 2005

 --- Bill McIver <Bill.McIver at nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
escribió: 
> 
> Martin,
> 
> First, I agree with you that the WGIG has a lot on
> its plate already.

Hi, Bill, sorry if it sounded hard, I am trying to
help and avoid one-over-one-another burocratic teams
and organisms, overlapping incumbences. We, the
humans, have just a lot of them.

> 
> Respectfully, I think the question you pose is too
> narrow though.
> The question is should be:
> 
>   What responsibliities should be included within
>   the concept of governance of the information
>   society (or societies)?

Well, that is the point. At first, defining concepts,
what do you define as governance? I find this word
very similar to governement, but I am a spanish native
speaker and in my language I do not know something
different to Gobierno = Governmwent. 
WGIG issue was about Internet Governance (what does it
mean exactly?) and NEVER was their planned mission to
govern the Information Society. Internet is nos the
same than the Information Society.

I am seeing that many members of the WGIG do not know
yet what is exactly WGIG mission and scope (nor I), so
how was they elected to do something that nobody knows
what involves? How are we sure that is the proper
peole if we do not know yet what to do?

What are they? representatives of we, the people, to
build an Information Society Constitution?
If that were the matter, I found the WGIG absoultely
biased and not properly builded. If you are thinking
to regulate the Informatiuon Society, you should
accept that Cyberspace is a new territory discovered
and created by Humanity and nobody should try to
govern it in an authocratic way. Democracy is the best
alternative we know for government, so, if some
Information Society Government were needed (I do not
think it is necessary a content regulation from a
centralized body, I call it censorship) it should be
democratically votedin the more inclusive and
minory-respecting way.

Sorry for the message length, I just wnat to ask the
WGIG members here, could you please send a document
about the organism mission and objectives, if it is
yet discussed?

But, 

Indid not understand thnat WGIG should NEVER govern
the Information Society

> 
> In my opinion, we need to cover more than names and
> numbers, IPv6, etc...
> 
> Andy Carvin's point yesterday about the US 508
> regulations is but one
> example of the type of relationship that I am
> describing.
> 
> We should not just view this is an isolated issue
> involving a specific set of technologies, nor is it
> just about the UN.
> It is really about the broader issues of good design
> and implementation 
> practices,
> and the identification of and adherence to good
> standards.
> 
> Parts of the engineering and computer science
> community (of which I am a 
> part)
> have been addressing these issues for a long time,
> both in terms of 
> research and practice.
> Yet, we seem to be discussing it here as if our role
> is to just
> wait for bad designs to pop up and then to criticize
> them on an 
> individual basis.
> This is not acceptable for public information
> systems.
> 
> Certainly more needs to be done within the
> communities that
> design and deploy technologies to raise awareness
> and force change, but 
> in the
> context of WSIS more needs to be done to speak more
> directly to
> IT professionals and organizations about they way
> they work.
> 
> It is almost as if the people and processes involved
> in
> engineer ICTs don't exist within the WSIS.
>  
> 
> Best,
> 
> WJM
> 
> 
> Martin Olivera wrote:
> 
> >  --- Bill McIver <Bill.McIver at nrc-cnrc.gc.ca>
> > escribió:
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > We should approach the issues separately.
> > >
> > > I think the first two could be done quickly and
> > > put into a report and a request.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > More importantly, this *type* of problem should
> be
> > > covered by the results of
> > > the WGIG. This is the broader perspective of
> what IG
> > > means that some
> > > people where arguing
> > > for in the first phase.
> >
> > What has to do Internet Governance with accesing
> > problem in a MS-biaased public UN site?
> > I think that many people is giving WGIG a lot of
> more
> > responsabilities than necessary...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > WJM
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Guerra wrote:
> > >
> > > > trying to be productive...
> > > >
> > > > Any way we can communicate the results of our
> > > "tests" to the relevant
> > > > UN Officials so that they can perhaps try to
> fix
> > > it ASAP.   
> > > >
> > > > If they can not, then i would suggest that we
> > > start the process of
> > > > formulating a formal press release to inform
> the
> > > world about the lack
> > > > of standards..
> > > >
> > > > regards
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > > At 3:41 PM +0100 1/6/05, Vittorio Bertola
> wrote:
> > > > >Georg C. F. Greve ha scritto:
> > > > >>  rp> Regards to all and Happy Transparent
> and
> > > Accessible New Year.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I just tried this and had problems actually
> > > getting to the documents,
> > > > >>others have reported similar problems with
> > > non-IE browsers on Windows
> > > > >>and Macintosh. It appears the site is
> running on
> > > Microsoft and is
> > > > >>using Microsoft-only functions for
> Javascript.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ###
> > > > Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org>
> > > > Privaterra - <http://www.privaterra.org>
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