[WSIS CS-Plenary] ASSEZ DE TERGIVERSATIONS

Thu Oct 13 07:54:11 BST 2005

Sorry my message has been truncked....
I only want to propose that those, the big majority of
us, who want to gather arround women promotion all
arond the world and in all status and responsabilities
will create a special discussion group about the
issue.
The problem is more difficult than it seems...
Are we going to support Lepen daughter or Segolene
Royal as possible candidate in a French presidential ?
If in the US Democrate Hillary Clinton would be
opposite to another Republican woman candidate who are
we going to support ?
And choising beetween a progressit man candidate and a
 non progressit woman competition are we allowed to
support the woman position.
In the german case the situation is clear but it
depends on the german people decision.
In conclusion if we have to create a discussion group,
i would like to propose 2 groups one for those who
beleive on the woman decided to promote human progress
and another favourable to women supporting regress....
In 3 weeks, the Tunis Summit with its huge challenges
and we lose our time with such a discussion.....
Please stop it !
Best regards
Djilali     

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> >Location, location, location: Vittorio, your 2 
> >cents worth sells short the issue. I'd want at 
> >least a quid. Your conclusion is only a 
> >conclusion, not an analysis. To put it as 
> >succinctly as possible, in hopes that someone 
> >educated in feminist studies might be able to 
> >accomplish this, there is a bit of truth to your 
> >conclusion. But, let's look at the factors that 
> >figure into it. First, in patriarchal societies, 
> >some women will benefit by being outdoing the 
> >"Old Boys" in their usual function. There also 
> >will be some progressive voices from men, mostly 
> >men who have learned from the feminist movement. 
> >Which should suggest that we should have less 
> >patriarchy and more feminism, to put this in the 
> >simplest terms. Although I agree (and have 
> >experienced the situation) with the situation in 
> >which men *may* be more progressive on gender 
> >equality than may be women, it's far more likely 
> >that women, who are affected especially by 
> >gender discrimination, will be the more 
> >important voices when it comes to being "civil 
> >servants" (?) that are devoted to gender 
> >justice. So, my money (figuratively speaking) 
> >continues to be put toward women who continue to 
> >advance progressive issues and most certainly 
> >feminist advances, and even more particularly, 
> >the issues related to women in the Global South, 
> >where uneven development and gender have to be 
> >considered together.
> 
> I suppose that if you don't accept my 
> conscious-raising effort, we can always 
> arm-wrestle to settle the issue. But, please let 
> me warn you in advance: I am a member of the 
> Women's Studies faculty at my university;-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Lisa
> 
> >Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>I think you will have reached gender parity 
> >>when you will start to judge civil servants by 
> >>what they do, rather than by their gender.
> >>My two cents,
> >
> >
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