[WSIS CS-Plenary] Re: [governance] Re: [Kofi Annan nominates IFGAdvisory Group

[Carlos Afonso]

Yes, we could call that group the "ICANN like-minded group", based on 
how they vote on (or lobby for) key issues which might affect the ICANN 
status-quo :)

--c.a.

McTim wrote:
> Hi Veni,
> 
> On 5/19/06, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> At 10:38 AM 19.5.2006 '?.'ЪЪ┬Ж  +0900, Izumi AIZU wrote:
>> >I agree most of what Milton wrote, perhaps with more
>> >cautious tones than him.
>>
>> I don't agree with "most of what Milton wrote".
> 
> I find this to be a common occurrence ;-)
> 
>> Izumi, this strikes me, "CS in a narrow sense"? I
>> am part of the CS, and I don't accept if someone
>> will name is as part of the ICANN. I am a member
>> of the Board for a term; I am not staff. I don't
>> accept anyone to call me an "ICANN agent", and in
>> fact I find this unfair and quite rude.
> 
> Well, not rude IMO, but certainly unfair.
> 
> The notion of a 4th stakeholders group got shot down on this list, yet
> it has been "recreated" in the table sent by CA.  "ICANN system folk"
> are CS.  (ISOC ppl are not part of ICANN system, tho they may be like
> minded).
> 
> Some of these ppl have done more for the stability and growth of the
> network than all of the rest of us combined ever will.  In the case of
> some of the ppl on the list, they do it as volunteers.
> 
> Can't get more CS than that!
> 
>>
>> >While there is seemingly "consensus" not to discuss ICANN related issues
>> >here at IGF, but rather in the closed "enhanced cooperation" process,
>> >then why so many ICANN related folks are here?
>> >This is quite strange to me. Any explanation?
>>
>> Again - everyone is ICANN-related here. What
>> about Adam Peak? Isn't he now on the NomCom? :)
>>
>> >Where are the spam, security, multilingual experts?
> 
> To answer Izumi, the "technical community folk" are the experts!  Ppl
> like Patrick and Nii implement IDNs, DNSSEC, and a host of anti-spam
> measures on their networks, AND teach many others in CS forums how to
> do it!!
> 
> 
>> >I think the Civil society memebrs there in Geneva should
>> >express our initial serious concerns about the composition
>> >and the direction of the MAG.
>>
>> We could do that, but let's not forget something
>> else - CS got 5 out of 15 people suggested.
>> that's 1 out of every 3. Not bad. And let's not
>> forget that some of the suggested people were
>> actually involved in the WSIS, WGIG, etc. Which
>> means they can continue to contribute in one or
>> another capacity. Or am I wrong?
> 
> no, you are not wrong.
> 
> 

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Carlos A. Afonso
diretor de planejamento
Rits -- http://www.rits.org.br

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