[WSIS CS-Plenary] OECD Civil society reference group & OECD 2008 Ministerial Meeting on the Future of the Internet Economy
Adam Peake
ajp at glocom.ac.jp
Mon Jun 9 16:57:23 BST 2008
FWIW. Information about this OECD ministerial
and civil society involvement in it was sent to
this list last August (August 2007)
<http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/pipermail/plenary/2007-August/009778.html>
There was a little discussion, but not much.
Francis, you actually mentioned one of the prep
meetings for the process on the
<gov at wsis-gov.org> list, see
<http://mail.conferences.tv/pipermail/gov/2007-October/000072.html>,
i.e. the Ottawa event in the message title.
Adam
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>Dear Meryem
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>Many thanks for the prompt answer
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>>
>>Dear Francis,
>>
>>As Lisa already explained, information about "The Public Voice"
>>process
>>
>If I look at the web page of the CS forum in Seoul,
>it is indicated
>
>Organized by
>
>The Public Voice Coalition
>OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>The Trade Union Advisory Committee (TUAC)
>This would mean that The Public Voice Coalition
>and the OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>are two distinct entities.
>
>The public voice could be yet another coalition, that's fine,
>the existence of an officially recognized
>OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>is yet another thing of a much greater importance.
>
>Please clarify the relationship between the two.
>
>> has been sent long time ago, with invitation to join, to the
>>governance caucus list,
>>
>Internet Economy is a topic that concerns all WSIS stakeholders,
>not solely those involved in the IG-Caucus
>I look in the the past messages, it was not not clear if it was about the
>Ottwa meeting or the Seoul meeting.
>The OECD Civil Society Reference Group is seemingly not mentioned,
>but I may have passed it
>
>> and few exchanges have appeared on this list
>>too. This very large CS coalition holds monthly teleconferences
>>(using skype), that are open to anyone willing to join (info at:
>><http://thepublicvoice.org/events/pvwsismeetings/default.html>http://thepublicvoice.org/events/pvwsismeetings/default.html.
>>See
>>also:
>><http://thepublicvoice.org/events/seoul08/>http://thepublicvoice.org/events/seoul08/
>>default.html#civil_society_documents).
>>
>>
>OK, interseting to know
>
>>
>>In view of this very process (OECD Ministerial in Seoul), this large
>>coalition has prepared a background paper in a collaborative way and
>>through, inter alia, a wiki. You wil note that latest version of the
>>background paper is entitled:
>>"Recommendations and Contributions to the OECD Ministerial Meeting of
>>17-18 June 2008 from Civil Society Participants in the Public Voice
>>Coalition", thus not claiming to represent civil society as whole.
>>
>>
>OK, the Public Voice coalition
>
>>That, we agree, would in any case be meaningless.
>>
>>Regarding the OECD CS Reference Group, it has been formed in view of
>>this very process, by organizations and people having a work history
>>with the OECD, to be the interface of the wide coalition.
>>
>>
>This is not very clear.
>Does this means that public voice is a component
>of the OECD CS Reference Group ?
>For NGOs to interface with OECD, do they have to join the
>OECD CS Reference Group ?
>
>>
>>By work history, I really mean that some of these groups are
>>following the OECD process for more than 10 years. I, for one, have
>>participated on behalf of my French organization to the 1998 OECD
>>Ministerial in Ottawa
>>(<http://gilc.org/events/ottawa98/agenda.html>http://gilc.org/events/ottawa98/agenda.html)
>>and have organized an event in Paris in 1999, both in the framework
>>of the Public Voice coalition and in conjunction with an OECD meeting
>>(<http://www.iris.sgdg.org/actions/publicvoice99/>http://www.iris.sgdg.org/actions/publicvoice99/).
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>>Since its establishment in 1996, the Public Voice coalition has been
>>facilitated by EPIC (the Electronic Privacy Information Center). In
>>view of the 2008 OECD Ministerial, Katitza Rodriguez has been in
>>charge of this facilitator role on behalf of EPIC. My own name
>>appears as the other contact point for the CS-Labour Forum programme
>>since, as part of the OECD CS Reference Group, I've helped Katitza
>>with this.
>>
>>In summary, the public voice coalition has been created a long time
>>ago, even well before the WSIS process, and has been aggregating many
>>new CS people and groups over time. It has always been open to those
>>willing to join (please contact Katitza Rodriguez: katitza at datos-
>>personales.org if this is your case). One might say that the public
>>voice coalition plays vis a vis the OECD the same role as this CS
>>plenary list vis a vis WSIS and WSIS follow-up processes. Some people/
>>groups are engaged in both processes, and some other just in one of
>>them.
>>
>>
>OK, that's fine, the public voice is legitimate
>to be a coalition active at the OECD,
>what my question is about the recently formed and
>officially recognized OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>
>In order to join the OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>do we have to join Public Voice ?
>How one can join this "reference group" ?
>How it is coordinated ?
>Is there a web site ? a mailing list ?
>
>>
>>I hope this answers your questions.
>>
>>
>>
>Concerning Public Voice yes,
>less concerning the OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>where further information is needed.
>When a group is entitled the OECD Civil Society Reference Group,
>it means that there some kind of institutional recognition attached to it.
>The advent of a structured dialog between an Intergovernmental Organization
>and CS is most welcome, but it must be open, better advertised within WSIS CS,
>and clarified.
>
>Best
>
>Francis
>
>>Best,
>>Meryem
>>
>>Le 9 juin 08 à 03:53, Dr. Francis MUGUET a écrit :
>>
>>
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>>>Dear Lisa
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>>>Many thanks for your prompt reply.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Francis and all,
>>>>
>>>>Try
>>>><http://thepublicvoice.org/events/seoul08/>http://thepublicvoice.org/events/seoul08/.
>>>>When you scroll
>>>>down, you¹ll see ³reference group² list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>>>The Association for Progressive Communications (APC)
>>>Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC)
>>>Consumers Korea
>>>European Digital Rights Initiative (EDRI)
>>>Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)
>>>The Internet Governance Project (IGP)
>>>Trans Atlantic Consumer Dialogue (TACD)
>>>OK, I see the list now. :-)
>>>
>>>and below contact points
>>>Program contact
>>>Katitza Rodríguez Pereda <katitza AT datos-personales.org>
>>>The Public Voice Coordinator, OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>>>
>>>Meryem Marzouki <marzouki AT ras.eu.org>
>>>OECD Civil Society Reference Group
>>>
>>> anyway, more information than just a list,
>>>is clearly required about this group
>>>that claims to be a reference for Civil Society
>>>as far as OECD is concerned
>>>
>>>how it was born ?
>>>what is the basis of its legitimacy to be a reference ?
>>>how it is coordinated ?
>>>is it open to anyone ?
>>>Is this reference group making open consultations ?
>>>
>>>Hope the contact points in c/c
>>> could provide some more information on the
>>>various WSIS lists.
>>>
>>>Many thanks
>>>
>>>Francis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>Lisa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 6/8/08 9:05 PM, "Dr. Francis MUGUET"
>>>><mailto:muguet at mdpi.org><muguet at mdpi.org>
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