[WSIS CS-Plenary] this list is in trouble...

Mon Feb 16 18:59:55 GMT 2009

hi all,

this looks like a revitalisation of the list: thank you charles, thank you
carlos for these notes.

best greetings

annette muehlberg

> [Please note that by using 'REPLY', your response goes to the entire list.
> Kindly use individual addresses for responses intended for specific
> people]
>
> Click http://wsis.funredes.org/plenary/ to access automatic translation of
> this message!
> _______________________________________
>
> Yes, the intruder shows some mebers of the list are alive, not that the
> list is itself alive. The flurry of messages now was provoked, and
> unless we think about what to do with the list, it will soon return to
> its "siesta".
>
> WSIS-related themes are well alive, but not so via this list, this is
> the point. And this is the only of hundreds of lists I receive in which
> you have to scroll down past a long header to get to the actual content
> (why is it configured like this??), and usually the content is just an
> announcement or ad.
>
> Thanks, Charles, for this. If the list at least remains as an
> information feed with content like this msg from Charles as example,
> fine. But still needs moderation, which is not what we have today.
>
> BTW, the CRIS campaign main list (cris-active) seems to have gone to a
> "siesta" since January.
>
> After WSIS, interest from NGOs (and other stakeholders) in the themes
> has clearly faded. All the more reason to think what to do with our
> information exchange channels.
>
> frt rgds
>
> --c.a.
>
> Charles Geiger wrote:
>> [Please note that by using 'REPLY', your response goes to the entire
>> list. Kindly use individual addresses for responses intended for
>> specific people]
>>
>> Click http://wsis.funredes.org/plenary/ to access automatic translation
>> of this message!
>> _______________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> Well, thanks to the "intruder" from Chandigarh we know now that this
>> list
>> is not dead!
>>
>> In the past, I sent all information about CSTD and the cluster of
>> WSIS-related events to Philippe, who sent it to this list. I wanted to
>> remain in the background, as I am not really "civil society" (at least
>> not
>> yet, I shall retire in November 2009 and maybe shall continue on some
>> aspects of WSIS in my new capacity as a member of civil society...).
>>
>> There have been some changes in CONGO, and I shall discuss with CONGO
>> about their future role in WSIS follow-up. If CONGO agrees, I shall
>> continue, for the time being, to work through CONGO.
>>
>> There are some new developments here in Geneva. Regarding the cluster of
>> WSIS-related events, ITU is taking over more and more responsibility,
>> which is not a bad move, as I am retiring. ITU may not feel comfortable
>> to
>> send information to a "civil society list", but I think they would be
>> ready to keep CONGO in the loop. This would alllow for better planning
>> for
>> those of you who intend to come to Geneva for the future clusters of
>> WSIS-related events.
>>
>> Regarding the CSTD, the Secretariat did install last year for the first
>> time a e-mail list for the members of the Commission, and I managed to
>> get
>> on this list also three persons from civil society, insiting on the
>> multi-stakeholder character of WSIS follow-up (Ayesha from ICC is also
>> on
>> the list). The three persons are Philippe, Parminder and Anriette. There
>> was no traffic on this list in the last few months,  but in the run-up
>> to
>> the next CSTD session (25-29 May 2009) I think that a draft resolution
>> on
>> WSIS follow-up may circulate again on this list, like last year. As
>> Philippe is not anymore with CONGO, the draft resolution could be sent
>> to
>> this list by Parminder or Anriette (or a new person from CONGO). It is a
>> good way to keep all of you informed, and you may also give feedback to
>> those of you who are at Geneva attending the CSTD. CONGO has already
>> contacted me (thanks to the "accident" on this list)  and we shall
>> discuss
>> what role CONGO can/will play in WSIS follow-up from now onwards.
>>
>> I use this opportunity to give you some advance information directly. It
>> is not yet official, but very likely, that there would be a second round
>> of open consultations in the run-up to the fourth annual IGF meeting in
>> Egypt,  in the second week of May in Geneva, very probably on 13 May.
>> The
>> MAG of IGF would then meet on 14 and 15 May. ITU plans to hold a cluster
>> of WSIS-related events (or whatever the new name may be) in the third
>> week
>> of May, in the ITU premises or in the CICG (behind the ITU) in Geneva.
>> At
>> present, it looks like as if the programme would be a mixture between
>> the
>> tradional Action Line Facilitation meetings and a meeting on themes (ITU
>> is focusing this year heavily on child protection on the Internet). ITU
>> and UNESCO will meet with the different Action Line Facilitators on 23
>> February and it is possible (but not sure, we are running out of time)
>> that ITU and UNESCO would do a short online multistakeholder
>> consultation
>> afterwards.
>>
>> The 12th session of the CSTD is taking place from 25 to 29 May. Like in
>> the previous years, the first day will be at ministerial level, with a
>> short opening ceremony (hopefully, like in the previous years, with a
>> speaker from civil society). Most probably we will have on Tuesday 26
>> May
>> a day with multi-stakeholder panels, organized jointly with GAID. There
>> is
>> a good chance that one panel would be on mobile phones and poverty
>> reduction, but the themes are not yet fully fixed.
>>
>> Regarding civil society participation, we organized last year a
>> nomination
>> process in order to invite some participants from civil society. This
>> process was very time-consuming, as the information about the nomination
>> process was not only sent to this list, but also to more than 3000
>> entities in consultative status with ECOSOC, and we received more than
>> 100
>> nominations from NGOs in consultative status with ECOSOC, but who could
>> not show any relation to WSIS. We have therefore decided not repeat the
>> process this year. We have some (few) money from SDC left to invite some
>> (few) participants from civil society. Last year, Philippe and I had
>> identified about 20 serious nominations for invitation from all over the
>> developing world. We selected 9 persons, and 6 could finally attend (3
>> dropped out for different reasons). We shall therefore use the same list
>> of nominations like last year, and concentrate on those names that we
>> were
>> unable to consider last year. We plan roughly for 2 invitees each from
>> Latin America, Africa and Asia-Pacific. The invitees may partly be from
>> the same organizations like last year, but would very probably not be
>> the
>> same persons. I shall keep the members of this list (directly or through
>> CONGO) informed about the invitation process.
>>
>> With best regards from Geneva
>>
>> Charles Geiger
>> Special Adviser to the CSTD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> karen banks <karenb at gn.apc.org>
>> Sent by: plenary-bounces at wsis-cs.org
>> 11.02.2009 10:57
>> Please respond to
>> Virtual WSIS CS Plenary Group Space <plenary at wsis-cs.org>
>>
>>
>> To
>> anriette at apc.org, Virtual WSIS CS Plenary Group Space
>> <plenary at wsis-cs.org>, Virtual WSIS CS Plenary Group Space
>> <plenary at wsis-cs.org>
>> cc
>>
>> Subject
>> Re: [WSIS CS-Plenary] this list is in trouble...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Please note that by using 'REPLY', your response goes to the entire
>> list.
>> Kindly use individual addresses for responses intended for specific
>> people]
>>
>> Click http://wsis.funredes.org/plenary/ to access automatic translation
>> of
>> this message!
>> _______________________________________
>>
>> hi everyone
>>
>> Thanks anriette for responding.. nothing to add from me..
>>
>> adam and i continue to check legitimate subscriptions when we can - but
>> we
>> provide no moderation (and to be honest - the list has never been
>> moderated in the sense of moderating content - the list has always been
>> self-moderated by the community of subscribed users).
>>
>> However, in this instance, we have removed the offending address.
>>
>> I am going to ask our technical support people to look into the possible
>> hacking of subscribed addresses
>>
>> karen
>>
>> At 19:47 10/02/2009, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
>> [Please note that by using 'REPLY', your response goes to the entire
>> list.
>> Kindly use individual addresses for responses intended for specific
>> people]
>>
>> Click http://wsis.funredes.org/plenary/ to access automatic translation
>> of
>> this message!
>> _______________________________________
>>
>> Hello all
>>
>> Just to confirm what has been said:
>>
>> - APC is still donating server time and space towards hosting this list
>>
>> - Subscription is public, so anyone can subscribe, but the request for
>> subscription is held for approval by the volunteer moderators who are,
>> currently, Adam Peake and Karen Banks
>>
>> - However, the spirit of this list has been one of open and free
>> participation, and it is in no way linked to WSIS accreditation;
>> therefore the moderators are not under any obligation to spend too much
>> time on checking who new subscribers are.. as long as they appear to
>> have some interest in information society issues potential subscribers
>> are likely to be approved
>>
>> - The purpose of the list has evolved, and while it is has been less
>> active, it could still play a role in sharing information, and, as
>> Charles Geiger has pointed out, to communicate specifically around the
>> WSIS follow-up process which for many of us is still important
>>
>> APC is happy to continue to support this list, but we are not in a
>> position to monitor it closely. That we leave to the participants.. and
>> based on the discussion in this thread, you are doing a very good job at
>> dealing with inappropriate content.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Anriette
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Plenary mailing list
>> Plenary at wsis-cs.org
>> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>> _______________________________________________
>> Plenary mailing list
>> Plenary at wsis-cs.org
>> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Plenary mailing list
>> Plenary at wsis-cs.org
>> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>
> --
>
> Carlos A. Afonso
> Rede de Informações para o Terceiro Setor --- Rits
> --------------------------------------------------
> www.rits.org.br www.rets.org.br www.ritsnet.org.br
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Plenary mailing list
> Plenary at wsis-cs.org
> http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plenary
>